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Old 02-18-2013, 11:21 AM   #81
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It's a shame you blame the United Way for the Nazi tactics of some individual businesses to get 100% participation. Those pressures/requirements don't come from UW, they come from the zealous folks managing companies who want to look good in the community by forcing all to participate.
Of course, there's no way you could know how things were presented to us at the MegaCorp I toiled at, nor I at yours, but.........

Each year United Way organizers came in to speak to management and the unfortunate "department representatives" about the importance of having 100% or near 100% participation. I agree that company management could have simply kept UW out. But once in, their literature, their motivational presentations (we had Mike Singletary preach to us) and their suggested procedures for canvasing and soliciting participation were very high pressure.

It was definitely NOT a case where a low key charity was trumped up by business management so business management could "look good in the community."

It could have been completely different way out there on the edge of the wilderness......

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Old 02-18-2013, 11:28 AM   #82
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All the way back when I was in the Air Force. They sent an Officer to talk to us young Airmen about United Way. Kind of a force disparity don't you think? Same techniques at all the companies I worked for. Use management to intimidate the workers. This is a pre canned method of collection that UW has used for a long time. And it works for them.

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Old 02-18-2013, 11:56 AM   #83
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Originally Posted by REWahoo View Post
It is sad to see unfounded statements like this one.

Unfortunately the actions of one individual at the national level of United Way a few years ago created this misconception.

United Way charities are locally run and locally managed. While what you say may be true for some locations, that is the exception rather than the rule. I have comprehensive knowledge of two United Way organizations (San Antonio and Midland, TX) and can attest they are very cost efficient.
It's NOT unfounded.

When my sister worked for the U.S. Postal Service in the Dallas area, they put the pressure on her from Day One to donate part of each paycheck to charity...and they really wanted that charity to be the United Way. She told them she had to know what percentage of her donations would go to actually helping people in need. When she was told 11% she told them to stick it. 89% went to "Administration" and if you've ever seen their office in downtown Dallas, you'd see why.

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United Way in each community is a reflection of that community. Some are excellent, some average, and there is the occaisional problem. Overall, UW has accomplished a tremendous amount of good. My sense is that they have attempted to convince companies to avoid coercion, but of course, it still exists. The overhead costs of UW are reasonable, typically around 10 to 15%. Our UW offers the opportunity to designate to any organization, in or out of UW, so many people I know choose Planned Parenthood or other orgs that may not be UW funded.
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Well, I think this thread has sufficiently run off the rails.... the smell of bacon is now in the air.

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