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Re: Anybody else here go through some rough patches early in life?
Old 09-13-2006, 06:08 PM   #41
 
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we children of the late 60's had the draft to work into our plans. I had/have a fair amount of respect for the draft so I'll consider it a detour as opposed to a rough patch.
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Yup, I was drafted also! - Biggest callup of the Nam War -- So I did not do any life planning till my 4 years of Service was up! (Joined the Navy, instead of running around in Rice patties)

We should bring the draft back! It would put a quicker end to the nonsense wars we are currently involved in. Americans not only do not show up to the polls to vote like they should, but they could care a less when the poor and minorities are getting killed every day in Iraq. The most they do is stick a 'support the troops' bumper sticker on their car. - What the hell does that mean?
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Re: Anybody else here go through some rough patches early in life?
Old 09-13-2006, 06:19 PM   #42
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We should bring the draft back!
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Cocktail hour C-T?

Not yet, We're going out tonight!

And Not only should we bring the draft back, but have No deferrments. That is just a way for rich kids to avoid service.
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Old 09-13-2006, 07:29 PM   #44
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Was just going to post something quick and saw this thread:

Hang in there, WC! I have a bar in mind you ever want to drop by and get a beer! FWIW, I still don't think I've found the ideal job, and I'm 32! But my first decent job was landed just before my 29th birthday. Before that I was "the second best candidate" for 3 promotions in a row :P
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Not yet, We're going out tonight!

And Not only should we bring the draft back, but have No deferrments. That is just a way for rich kids to avoid service.
Wow we!!
I'm liking the way Cut-Throat is thinking
So REW and you other boys still in Texas,* you think you might be able to get CT on the Prez's Christmas card list?
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Old 09-13-2006, 07:43 PM   #46
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So REW and you other boys still in Texas, you think you might be able to get CT on the Prez's Christmas card list?
I'm betting the Prez already has CT on a list... 8)

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Wow we!!
I'm liking the way Cut-Throat is thinking
So REW and you other boys still in Texas, you think you might be able to get CT on the Prez's Christmas card list?
The reason we don't have any College Protests against the Iraq war, and other rich and powerful folks in the U.S. speaking out against the Iraq war is because we don't have a draft! - Start a draft and watch the sh*t fly - just like in the Vietnam era!

- Today all the college boys are probably joining the 'young republicans fraternity! They are perfectly willing to let the blacks, and poor white trash die, to carry out Karl Rove's policy.

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You're absolutely correct C-T!

Take Israel for example: (from Wikipedia)

Most Israelis (males and females) are drafted into the military at age 18. Exceptions are Israeli Arabs, those who cannot serve because of injury or disability, women who declare themselves married, or those who are religiously observant. Compulsory service is three years for men, and two years for women. Circassians and Bedouin also actively enlist in the IDF. Since 1956, Druze men have been conscripted in the same way as Jewish men, at the request of the Druze community. Men studying full-time in religious institutions can get a deferment from conscription. Most Haredi Jews extend these deferments until they are too old to be conscripted, a practice that has fueled much controversy in Israel.

Following compulsory service, Israeli men become part of the IDF reserve forces, and are usually required to serve several weeks every year as reservists until their 40s.

We need to follow suite.* A military draft for women and men.* Deferments eliminated or extremely limited to be fewer than the Israel system or our own past draft system.* Eligible age raised so that those that missed serving previously can at least be conscripted to desk jobs now.

If we just want to recreate the Viet Nam era, everything we need to refresh our memories is here:* http://www.landscaper.net/draft.htm#How's your "Luck of the Draw"?



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You old war horses veterans may see the draft as the cure to what ails American politics, but you're not doing the military any favors.

The military's a lot smaller than it used to be, and much of the conscript labor has been contracted out. Do you know how many people will be put out of work just to give draftees something to do? No way will all these eligible draftees be motivated to learn a trade, put up with authority, or feel motivated enough to do more than preserve their existence. The latter is probably a Catch-22 good thing but there's a reason that not even the Army likes two-year enlistments, let alone a draft. Are you guys willing to throw away all the progress that the military has made since the draft ended just to facilitate your political prejudices?

Go do your great social experiments with some other social institution...
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You old war horses veterans may see the draft as the cure to what ails American politics, but you're not doing the military any favors.

you guys willing to throw away all the progress that the military has made since the draft ended just to facilitate your political prejudices?

Go do your great social experiments with some other social institution...
We already have a draft Nords. It's just based on one economic strata, instead of the whole country. And I don't think there has been the progress that you speak of.
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Thanks guys. No real new news but I feel better reading through some of your experiences. I get that little character on my shoulder telling me I am the only one that is struggling and I need those little reminders. I guess it is kind of normal to run through rough patches and as some have correctly pointed out, it doesn't discriminate. I suppose you all are here b/c you persevered and got through it. Hopefully next time I can post something positive for a change.

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wildcat,

Do you live in Lexington, KY? Is your avatar a Blue Man? They are coming here in October...
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Do you live in Lexington, KY? Is your avatar a Blue Man? They are coming here in October...
I think WC's avatar is Jason from Friday the 13th
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I'd say that the poverty of my early years was a much easier time than the continual stress of a difficult marriage in my later life.

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