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Old 04-23-2010, 06:08 PM   #21
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Congratulations Laurence! Looks like things are going well for you and your family. There will be a lot of excitement around the arrival of Tori and Olivia's new sibling, so I'm thinking that two job changes might be a bit too much rocking of the boat. But that's just me. I think you have a good setup right now and it's family friendly, which has got to count for a lot!

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Old 04-23-2010, 06:54 PM   #22
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Originally Posted by laurence View Post
Last bit of info...drum roll please....we have our 3rd (and final) child on the way now, due late November-ish!
Hot dog! Will there be another name poll?

There's no need to complicate, our time is short..
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Old 04-23-2010, 07:20 PM   #23
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Congrats on the new baby coming! You're a better man than I. I managed the CISSP, but no way could I handle 3 kids.

Just one minor point. If you both change jobs and make more money, you'll be putting yourself right in the crosshairs of all the coming tax increases. You'll be one of the very rich. If you aren't already. But if you are on the cusp, you could conceivably be setting yourself up for more stress and significantly higher taxes without increasing the overall take home pay all that much. Make sure to crunch the numbers before making any big changes. Also, you mentioned a non-COLAd pension. If you change jobs vs. staying how would that be effected?
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Old 04-23-2010, 10:55 PM   #24
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It sounds like it might be worth it for her to consider changing gigs -- $25/hr more for more or less the same work is nothing to sneeze at. You could use some of the extra salary to hire help, at least on a part-time basis, so that she wouldn't have to try to squeeze everything in to the hours the kids are sleeping (no predicting what kind of sleeper the new baby will be, after all). It sounds like you are in a good position, and the stability is nothing to sneeze at. However, keeping your eyes open for new opportunities and letting your current employer know what your market value is never hurts. If you find something you like, you can always consider taking it, and bargain hard for what you want from both the current and the prospective employer.

Good luck whatever you decide!

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Congrats on the new addition. I'm surprised no one has pointed out what this will cost over the next 20 years. I won't. Enjoy the family.

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My company has had several rounds of layoffs over the last 18 months, supposedly I'm safe but work is stressful due to the dread filled atmosphere (those of you who have been through layoffs know what I mean). Meanwhile I've been getting some tips from former and current coworkers that my skill set is in demand elsewhere ( I have a Masters in my field, CISSP, etc. etc. and about 14 years experience in various parts of IT and IT security). I kind of just shrugged until one req I was handed listed my exact skillset and said "$120k+" so that had me thinking.
No one is safe if the company isn't profitable. Well, maybe the C-suite, they seem to be the last to go.

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I've only been in management for 2.5 years now and where I'm at I'm getting good experience. I think waiting 2 years or more before jumping is right for me. Plus I know with the off Fridays I can get a couple more certs under my belt to pad up the resume.
I retired as IT Security Manager from a mega-corp. I wouldn't have thought that every other Friday off was stressful, I'd have been happy to get every other Saturday off.

I'm not sure that various certs are worth much. I had CISSP and CISM. I only did it because my PHB (who I actually like) knew I wasn't going to be around a long time and wanted the option of requiring it of my successor. He thought it was an easier sell if he could say I had it. I didn't find them difficult at all, so my opinion of them is not all that high. YMMV.

When I retired in 2007, I made About $100K plus a bonus that varied from $10K to $35K, not huge money. I also got an annual grant of stock options. These became extremely valuable when the stock price went up by a factor of 6.

Since I live in Canada I have no idea of the Health Insurance benefits, but other than that, I'd follow the money. Remember that you may be losing a Friday and a Saturday, however.

I wish you the best of luck no matter what you decide to do.
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Old 04-24-2010, 03:22 AM   #26
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kumquat, thank you for your insight as a member of my field. I want to confirm your opinion on the certifications, I read the suggested book over two weekends and past the CISSP the next week, I think certs get far too much credit. But they are given credit, so it's worth passing.

I feel pretty strongly that an amazing offer would have to come along to pull me from where I am. But I have decided to listen to the offers, so I will respond to the job req and see what happens. I plan on staying where I am, but if someone blows me away I have to give it a chance. Now with DW, I think we are in a state of "if it's a solid offer, take it!" since she is more of the gravy salary w/o benefits.

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