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Old 11-15-2005, 02:18 PM   #61
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I'll answe like Chris Rock did when they asked him how much he made on SNL.* "Doctor money" is my answer.* I don't think I'll be buying a jet or a house on the lake with my bonus for the job, but I'm certainly not going to complain either.* As I'm almost positive Brewer will attest, if I were to break it down hourly it wouldn't be so impressive.* *:P
Most definately. I would imagine that plumbers in my suburban 'hood get more per hour than I do. If you add in all the hours of unpaid labor in grad school and chasing Lady CFA, I might have been better off in Burger King as the fry cook.
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Old 11-15-2005, 02:28 PM   #62
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Most definately. I would imagine that plumbers in my suburban 'hood get more per hour than I do. If you add in all the hours of unpaid labor in grad school and chasing Lady CFA, I might have been better off in Burger King as the fry cook.

Not only that, think of all the free fries! mmmmm... French fries.
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Hard work in school and working 60-70 hour weeks for years without a real vacation. For someone who didn't do any of the foregoing to complain that it's not "fair" for me to receive a high salary I have only one thing to say.

I earned it.
Are you to be held up as a model of capitalism and strong work ethic or to be pitied for being a workaholic?

(hey, maybe we're back to that balance thing...)

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Working extremely long hours merely for the pursuit of advancements, status, or acquisition of wealth seems misguided. These kind of people will never be satisfied with they already have. They simply want more.
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Working extremely long hours merely for the pursuit of advancements, status, or acquisition of wealth seems misguided. These kind of people will never be satisfied with they already have. They simply want more.
Unless you use the system and play the game to advance your career to get a good salary and save a big chunk of it while getting bonuses and stock options that you can leverage to ER. The trick is to know you are playing the game and when you have won.
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The trick is to know you are playing the game and when you have won.
I agree with your general theme, but don't think you can ever "win" at this game. I would say the trick is to know when to cash in your chips and head for the exit.

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I agree with your general theme, but don't think you can ever "win" at this game.* I would say the trick is to know when to cash in your chips and head for the exit.

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You can win at this game and I have plenty of examples from my life at MegaCorp. But, you do have to know when to "hold them and when to fold them". I was moderately successful at the game and knew when to off the corp. ladder and become a bystander...with full benefits.
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I agree with your general theme, but don't think you can ever "win" at this game.* I would say the trick is to know when to cash in your chips and head for the exit.
It really comes down to reaching your goal, rather than striving to have more than the next guy.
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My co-worker just let a little hint slip about her salary, but I'm taking it with a grain of salt, as she likes to play mind games. She was talking about a friend of hers who's in the gov't, and about to get promoted to a GS-12. She asked me how to find the GS pay scales on the web, and I told her to just google "Federal government payscale" or something like that.

Well, after a few minutes, she made a comment like "Wow, when she gets that GS-12 she'll be making almost as much as me! Well, I looked up the scale, and it looks like a GS-12 starts off at around $63K! All I have to say is she'd better NOT be making that much, considering what a good employee she is! (NOT) That's about $13,000 more than what I make.

However, she HAS been in the workforce longer than me, as she's soon going to be 44, while I'm 35. So I guess it's quite possible that she COULD be making that much more than me. Next time raise time comes around, maybe I should try holding out for more? Nah, seriously though I think she's just trying to mess with my little mind. :
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Re: Discussing salary, a taboo not to be broken?

The one consistently statistically significant variable in pay is legnth of service.* See my earlier comment on other factors that impact comp within a job title.

The best way for good performers to increase their pay is to get a promotion.
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Working extremely long hours merely for the pursuit of advancements, status, or acquisition of wealth seems misguided. These kind of people will never be satisfied with they already have. They simply want more.
In all of my jobs, I have always felt its up or out. I have never been in a job I felt comfortable coasting in. Always had to play the games. Then again, out has always ended up being the better alternative.

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It really comes down to reaching your goal, rather than striving to have more than the next guy.
That is the key. *The game you should be playing is doing only what you need to do to get to your goals. *If you are in it for the competition and playing games with your peers then you have lost before you start. *Sure you may end up with more toys but so what. *There is so much more to life than ending up with all the toys. *

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Remember that after you are gone, all that will be left of you is the memories you leave in the minds of those that knew you. *No one will remember or care what job you had or how many cars you owned. *They will remember what kind of person you were.

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