NOTE: Sorry for length of post. Also, the average household income in Belgium is about 31K net yearly (40K USD or so).
Hi all,
I am so glad I found this board. Looking for something like this a while now.
Let me introduce myself: I am 21, graduated as a bachelor in applied economics 2 days ago and will pursue a one year master degree next year. I live in Belgium and single. My main assets are 15k euro in cash, top academic results, fascination for PF concepts and an internship offer from one of the 3 famous management consulting firms.
I am facing the following 'problems':
1. About the CASH: I am planning to put the 15K in the market (Vanguard index funds), but I feel like the market is not so cheap and that the USD will crash soon(-er or later). From what I read, random lump sum investing has been proven not to be inferior to dollar averaging, but I don't believe in the 'random' part of that hypothesis. So, what would you do: Putting 20K USD in Vanguard now or dollar averaging 2K USD a month till I graduate? Or maybe keep the 15K in euro, and use it as a downpayment on a small studio in my hometown (these go for around 60K)? (In that case it will be to live in, not to rent out.)
(My basic problem here is that I hate timing the market. A side note is that I will probably save an extra 8 to 10K in the next 12 months, mainly from private tutoring.)
2. About the JOB: I am a firm believer that trading hours for money generally sucks wealth and desire to live out of you. I consider the following career options:
A. Management consulting and wondering when to get out:
+: Car paid, sponsored MBA in 2 years, potentially partner by age 31 to 34.
-: When will I get out? My first 2 years I will be underpaid but hoping for the sponsored MBA, after that the pay goes exponential.
Initial pay is about 1800 euro net/month, so I will only be able to save 1000 euro/month at most.
B. EU official + sidebusinesses
+: 4800 euro net to start with (gross=net almost), I will be able to invest 80% of that and live comfortably too.
-: Boring job, chance of depression increases. My sidebusinesses must succeed or I won't be able to get out.
C. the sidebusinesses I am talking about are:
1. Peer-to-peer business idea, I will manage it the Plenty Of Fish way. (Plentyoffish.wordpress.com) Could earn limitless amounts.
2. Poker, I am in a small but VERY smart group of people learning to REALLY play poker. Could easily amount to 500$/hr, as we will write a semi-bot to guide us in our play (mostly prevent us from stalling and as a second opinion).
EDIT: Made a mistake here, 50$/hr while 10tabling is the goal, but not easy. 20$/hr/table is easy. Just to clarify, as 'easily' and '500$/hr' in the same sentence sound a bit naive.
D. Phd is an other possibility, but rather as a 'hobby'. (I am actually thinking of doing one in Personal Finance, as this field is extremely underestimated in our academic system imho.)
+: I like teaching
-: Only 50k net/ year after 4 years of study at 1500 net/month.
The way I see it, A can not be combined with any other initially, while B&C, or C&D are very doable. In the long term (after 'retiring'), I will probably do D anyway.
Thanks for reading all this, looking forward to your reply!
In http://www.early-retirement.org/forums/f26/introduce-yourself-here-13857-71.html#post532158 I explain the framework of my financial plan.
Hi all,
I am so glad I found this board. Looking for something like this a while now.
Let me introduce myself: I am 21, graduated as a bachelor in applied economics 2 days ago and will pursue a one year master degree next year. I live in Belgium and single. My main assets are 15k euro in cash, top academic results, fascination for PF concepts and an internship offer from one of the 3 famous management consulting firms.
I am facing the following 'problems':
1. About the CASH: I am planning to put the 15K in the market (Vanguard index funds), but I feel like the market is not so cheap and that the USD will crash soon(-er or later). From what I read, random lump sum investing has been proven not to be inferior to dollar averaging, but I don't believe in the 'random' part of that hypothesis. So, what would you do: Putting 20K USD in Vanguard now or dollar averaging 2K USD a month till I graduate? Or maybe keep the 15K in euro, and use it as a downpayment on a small studio in my hometown (these go for around 60K)? (In that case it will be to live in, not to rent out.)
(My basic problem here is that I hate timing the market. A side note is that I will probably save an extra 8 to 10K in the next 12 months, mainly from private tutoring.)
2. About the JOB: I am a firm believer that trading hours for money generally sucks wealth and desire to live out of you. I consider the following career options:
A. Management consulting and wondering when to get out:
+: Car paid, sponsored MBA in 2 years, potentially partner by age 31 to 34.
-: When will I get out? My first 2 years I will be underpaid but hoping for the sponsored MBA, after that the pay goes exponential.
Initial pay is about 1800 euro net/month, so I will only be able to save 1000 euro/month at most.
B. EU official + sidebusinesses
+: 4800 euro net to start with (gross=net almost), I will be able to invest 80% of that and live comfortably too.
-: Boring job, chance of depression increases. My sidebusinesses must succeed or I won't be able to get out.
C. the sidebusinesses I am talking about are:
1. Peer-to-peer business idea, I will manage it the Plenty Of Fish way. (Plentyoffish.wordpress.com) Could earn limitless amounts.
2. Poker, I am in a small but VERY smart group of people learning to REALLY play poker. Could easily amount to 500$/hr, as we will write a semi-bot to guide us in our play (mostly prevent us from stalling and as a second opinion).
EDIT: Made a mistake here, 50$/hr while 10tabling is the goal, but not easy. 20$/hr/table is easy. Just to clarify, as 'easily' and '500$/hr' in the same sentence sound a bit naive.
D. Phd is an other possibility, but rather as a 'hobby'. (I am actually thinking of doing one in Personal Finance, as this field is extremely underestimated in our academic system imho.)
+: I like teaching
-: Only 50k net/ year after 4 years of study at 1500 net/month.
The way I see it, A can not be combined with any other initially, while B&C, or C&D are very doable. In the long term (after 'retiring'), I will probably do D anyway.
Thanks for reading all this, looking forward to your reply!
In http://www.early-retirement.org/forums/f26/introduce-yourself-here-13857-71.html#post532158 I explain the framework of my financial plan.
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