House Survey- Did you build or buy used?

jIMOh · 03-06-2008, 08:16 AM

In my case I built twice (condo first time and dream home the second time). If you built, care to share your builder (big company or custom builder)?

We used Fisher homes for condo and Dixon for our dream home.

thx

**Sarah in SC** · 03-06-2008, 08:21 AM

Owner built, custom, architect-designed plan for this one. I was GC and hired a great local custom builder for the major stuff (masons, rough framing, roofing, drywall, and a bit of the finish carpentry). Did the rest ourselves--11 month project.

Last one was a 1942 beach cottage that we renovated over the course of 10 years.

ziggy29 · 03-06-2008, 08:21 AM

I didn't really "build" my first home (a small condo in San Jose), but it was a vacant unit recently built which was never occupied. I had nothing to do with the building of it. The three homes we've owned since have all been "used" -- built in 1966, 1967 and 1944 (in that order of ownership).

REWahoo · 03-06-2008, 08:27 AM

I voted "built once, never again". That might imply having a house built was a bad experience, but that wasn't the case in our situation. We bought a few acres outside the city, designed a house to fit our needs in retirement (single story, no steps inside, wide doors and hallways, etc.), and had it built by a custom homebuilder 6 years before I retired. Prior to this we'd always purchased an existing home.

freebird5825 · 03-06-2008, 08:49 AM

bought used at very low price during high interest rates (1984)

wanted to build log cabin ranch, but cost and budget never came together...still a dream...

GatorBuzz · 03-06-2008, 08:57 AM

We bought an existing home that had a new roof and new siding. Everything from the carpets to the light fixtures were 20 or more years old, though. The house was solid as a rock and the home inspection checked out very well. We have slowly renovated it ourselves and have enjoyed most of it. We're about half way there.

Our next house will likely be another existing home. However, eventually we want to build our own.

Walt34 · 03-06-2008, 09:01 AM

Bought used twice, built once but never again. Builder was in a development, lots of customization/options available although I wouldn't call it custom-built. It is our dream home but the hassles with construction delays and only average quality mean we'll never go through that again.

We ended up staying with FIL for a month waiting for the house to be finished. Wife didn't appreciate the joke that "Well, we're unemployed and homeless".

Khan · 03-06-2008, 09:16 AM

Bought a used house (first house) 30 years ago; still here. Have no idea what the next living arrangement will be.

samclem · 03-06-2008, 10:02 AM

Does the term "used house" strike anyone else as a little odd? I understand "used car," "used washing machine," etc, but these are all things that are designed to have a relatively limited service life---and to be eventually "used up." "Used house" sounds strange, like "used portrait."

Probably just another reflection of our culture. Houses as commodities.

ziggy29 · 03-06-2008, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by samclem

Does the term "used house" strike anyone else as a little odd? I understand "used car," "used washing machine," etc, but these are all things that are designed to have a relatively limited service life---and to be eventually "used up." "Used house" sounds strange, like "used portrait."

Maybe we need to say "pre-owned" instead. All the hoidy-toidy used car dealerships do that now anyway...

Nords · 03-06-2008, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by samclem

Does the term "used house" strike anyone else as a little odd? I understand "used car," "used washing machine," etc, but these are all things that are designed to have a relatively limited service life---and to be eventually "used up." "Used house" sounds strange, like "used portrait."
Probably just another reflection of our culture. Houses as commodities.

I'd much rather buy used. I've bought all of the above that way so that someone else can take care of the depreciation for me-- although I'd probably draw the line at "used underwear".

A nice thing about buying used is that the home has a few years to reveal unstable land, construction defects, or other "seemed like a good idea at the time" problems. Sure, proper supervision during the building process could avoid that too, but I'm not a soil engineer or a code expert and I'd have no idea how to check up on everyone else during constructon.

Used can also mean "incredible bargain". Our "dream house" was bought from a trust whose owners had died 3-5 years before the sale. (I even checked their causes of death to make sure it wasn't related to the property). All of the survivors just wanted out-- the teenage beneficiaries wanted what was left of the equity, the trustee wanted out of that job, and the neighborhood wanted the whole extended-family tribe outta there. (It also turned out that the police and DEA wanted a couple of the ~~parolees~~ residents too.) We wouldn't have been able to afford the house when it was new, we wouldn't have been able to afford it if it had been a more typical resale, and we certainly couldn't afford to buy it now.

**Want2retire** · 03-06-2008, 10:36 AM

The idea of building has its allure, I suppose because one could theoretically get exactly what one wants.

I think I prefer to purchase a "used home" that maybe just needs a few tweaks to be what I want. With a used home, I get to see exactly what I am going to get. Often the prior owners have added amenities that might not have occurred to me. Also, there might be less mystery about what will occur as the house settles if it has already been there 50 years.

I enjoy living in a house with its own history. Often they feel more comfortable to me, spiritually. OK, that probably sounded like Shirley MacLaine, but it is what it is.

**Martha** · 03-06-2008, 10:37 AM

I live in a town with old housing stock and not much area available to build. I don't think of used houses, I think of time periods. Our current place was built in 1903. Our first house was also built in 1903. A good portion of the local housing stock was built between 1890 and 1910 when our area was going through big lumber booms. We had an 1890s beach house we sold and after a few years someone came along and tore it down and put up a fancy shmancy house.

So, you have people who buy "Victorians" or "Craftsman" or "20s Duluth venacular" or "midcentury bungalows" or if really new, "60s ranch." People don't buy based so much on age, but on quality and style and neighborhood.

kombat · 03-06-2008, 10:43 AM

Where's the option for "Built new, plan to do it again?"

Marquette · 03-06-2008, 10:43 AM

Bought existing builder spec townhouse. Ryland.

Plan to build the next one for an extended stay. We've followed the work of a few architects for quite a while and will probably approach one of them. The one I have in mind works out of Duluth but seems like she'd be willing to at least come to wherever the land is to help site the house and plan everything.

donheff · 03-06-2008, 10:46 AM

Bought our DC house "used" and built our weekend place. Satisfied with both but hope to never build or buy again.

Caroline · 03-06-2008, 11:10 AM

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So, you have people who buy "Victorians" or "Craftsman" or "20s Duluth venacular" or "midcentury bungalows" or if really new, "60s ranch."

This is my case -- I bought a 20's craftsman because I wanted the detail and graciousness you can't get with a new house nowadays -- at least not for the price.

Coved ceilings, original oak trim, plaster work, art-tile fireplace, built-in china cabinets, big rooms, wood floors, vintage tile... and construction that cause workmen to comment, every time they see the foundation or the floor joists in the basement, that "they just don't build 'em like this anymore."

Of course, the complete absence of insulation was an issue,

and a couple of other things needed updating... but I'm happy with the package and think I got value for money relative to some of the cracker-boxes they're putting up these days.

So, bought "used" and would do so again.

**Want2retire** · 03-06-2008, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Caroline

Coved ceilings, original oak trim, plaster work, art-tile fireplace, built-in china cabinets, big rooms, wood floors, vintage tile... and construction that cause workmen to comment, every time they see the foundation or the floor joists in the basement, that "they just don't build 'em like this anymore."

**DROOL!!!** Oh gosh, that sounds just absolutely gorgeous to me. I wish they built houses like that now.

myself · 03-06-2008, 01:48 PM

Built once (by a company that's since closed it's doors), still living in it.
They basically were a GC type of builder.

Would do it again. If I acted as the GC.
Although I'd definitely add some architectural character to the next house (if/when we do it).

Zathras · 03-06-2008, 01:55 PM

Built once. I chose the 'built once - will never build again'.

View Poll Results: Houses: Did you build or did you buy used
Lifelong renter	3	2.63%
Built once, never again	21	18.42%
Built more than once	16	14.04%
Always bought used	53	46.49%
Never built, but would consider it	12	10.53%
Other	9	7.89%
Voters: 114. You may not vote on this poll

03-06-2008, 08:16 AM	#1
jIMOh Thinks s/he gets paid by the post Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Milford, OH Posts: 1,182	House Survey- Did you build or buy used? In my case I built twice (condo first time and dream home the second time). If you built, care to share your builder (big company or custom builder)? We used Fisher homes for condo and Dixon for our dream home. thx __________________ Light travels faster than sound. That is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak. One person's stupidity is another person's job security. Last edited by jIMOh; 03-06-2008 at 08:23 AM.

03-06-2008, 08:21 AM	#2
Sarah in SC Moderator Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 2,693	Owner built, custom, architect-designed plan for this one. I was GC and hired a great local custom builder for the major stuff (masons, rough framing, roofing, drywall, and a bit of the finish carpentry). Did the rest ourselves--11 month project. Last one was a 1942 beach cottage that we renovated over the course of 10 years. __________________ "Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference." - Mark Twain DINKS, 37 and 45, plan for his ER at 50, mine few yrs later.

03-06-2008, 08:21 AM	#3
ziggy29 Thinks s/he gets paid by the post Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Texas Hill Country Posts: 2,329	I didn't really "build" my first home (a small condo in San Jose), but it was a vacant unit recently built which was never occupied. I had nothing to do with the building of it. The three homes we've owned since have all been "used" -- built in 1966, 1967 and 1944 (in that order of ownership). __________________ FIRE Clock: Retired. Since it feels like I'll never be now. waiting for the government to privatize the gains and socialize my losses in my 401K...

03-06-2008, 08:27 AM	#4
REWahoo Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Texas Hill Country Posts: 11,514	I voted "built once, never again". That might imply having a house built was a bad experience, but that wasn't the case in our situation. We bought a few acres outside the city, designed a house to fit our needs in retirement (single story, no steps inside, wide doors and hallways, etc.), and had it built by a custom homebuilder 6 years before I retired. Prior to this we'd always purchased an existing home. __________________ [MODERATOR EDIT]

03-06-2008, 08:49 AM	#5
freebird5825 Thinks s/he gets paid by the post Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: 42N Latitude, NY Posts: 1,131	bought used at very low price during high interest rates (1984) wanted to build log cabin ranch, but cost and budget never came together...still a dream... __________________ *Freebird* Go placidly among the noise and haste and remember what peace there may be in silence. As far as possible without surrender be on good terms with all persons. Speak your truth quietly and clearly; and listen to others, even the dull and ignorant; they too have their story.

03-06-2008, 08:57 AM	#6
GatorBuzz Recycles dryer sheets Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 205	We bought an existing home that had a new roof and new siding. Everything from the carpets to the light fixtures were 20 or more years old, though. The house was solid as a rock and the home inspection checked out very well. We have slowly renovated it ourselves and have enjoyed most of it. We're about half way there. Our next house will likely be another existing home. However, eventually we want to build our own. __________________ "...I'm the kind of guy who if he can't have too much of a thing doesn't want any at all."

03-06-2008, 09:01 AM	#7
Walt34 Thinks s/he gets paid by the post Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: WV Panhandle Posts: 1,203	Bought used twice, built once but never again. Builder was in a development, lots of customization/options available although I wouldn't call it custom-built. It is our dream home but the hassles with construction delays and only average quality mean we'll never go through that again. We ended up staying with FIL for a month waiting for the house to be finished. Wife didn't appreciate the joke that "Well, we're unemployed and homeless". __________________ Retired six years ago at age 52

03-06-2008, 09:16 AM	#8
Khan Thinks s/he gets paid by the post Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Greater Dayton area Posts: 3,077	Bought a used house (first house) 30 years ago; still here. Have no idea what the next living arrangement will be. __________________ "Knowin' no one nowhere's gonna miss us when we're gone"

03-06-2008, 10:02 AM	#9
samclem Thinks s/he gets paid by the post Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,934	Does the term "used house" strike anyone else as a little odd? I understand "used car," "used washing machine," etc, but these are all things that are designed to have a relatively limited service life---and to be eventually "used up." "Used house" sounds strange, like "used portrait." Probably just another reflection of our culture. Houses as commodities. __________________ "Freedom begins when you tell Mrs. Grundy to go fly a kite." - R. Heinlein

03-06-2008, 10:36 AM	#12
Want2retire Moderator Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: New Orleans Posts: 6,033	The idea of building has its allure, I suppose because one could theoretically get exactly what one wants. I think I prefer to purchase a "used home" that maybe just needs a few tweaks to be what I want. With a used home, I get to see exactly what I am going to get. Often the prior owners have added amenities that might not have occurred to me. Also, there might be less mystery about what will occur as the house settles if it has already been there 50 years. I enjoy living in a house with its own history. Often they feel more comfortable to me, spiritually. OK, that probably sounded like Shirley MacLaine, but it is what it is. __________________ Dreaming of retirement.... " - - my greatest skill has been to want but little - - " (Henry David Thoreau, in Walden)

03-06-2008, 10:37 AM	#13
Martha Moderator Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: minnesota Posts: 9,794	I live in a town with old housing stock and not much area available to build. I don't think of used houses, I think of time periods. Our current place was built in 1903. Our first house was also built in 1903. A good portion of the local housing stock was built between 1890 and 1910 when our area was going through big lumber booms. We had an 1890s beach house we sold and after a few years someone came along and tore it down and put up a fancy shmancy house. So, you have people who buy "Victorians" or "Craftsman" or "20s Duluth venacular" or "midcentury bungalows" or if really new, "60s ranch." People don't buy based so much on age, but on quality and style and neighborhood. __________________ . Do not rely on the information provided--my posts are not to be taken as legal advice. Needless to say you must consult with your legal representative. I am not responsible for errors. If I offended you with cya I apologize. If I did not, I tried. Last edited by Martha; 03-06-2008 at 10:49 AM.

03-06-2008, 10:43 AM	#14
kombat Recycles dryer sheets Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 177	Where's the option for "Built new, plan to do it again?"

03-06-2008, 10:43 AM	#15
Marquette Thinks s/he gets paid by the post Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,020	Bought existing builder spec townhouse. Ryland. Plan to build the next one for an extended stay. We've followed the work of a few architects for quite a while and will probably approach one of them. The one I have in mind works out of Duluth but seems like she'd be willing to at least come to wherever the land is to help site the house and plan everything.

03-06-2008, 10:46 AM	#16
donheff Thinks s/he gets paid by the post Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 2,688	Bought our DC house "used" and built our weekend place. Satisfied with both but hope to never build or buy again. __________________ Every man is, or hopes to be, an Idler. -- Samuel Johnson

03-06-2008, 01:48 PM	#19
myself Recycles dryer sheets Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 185	Built once (by a company that's since closed it's doors), still living in it. They basically were a GC type of builder. Would do it again. If I acted as the GC. Although I'd definitely add some architectural character to the next house (if/when we do it). __________________ Primary title "chief moron"

03-06-2008, 01:55 PM	#20
Zathras Full time employment: Posting here. Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 616	Built once. I chose the 'built once - will never build again'.