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Old 02-24-2010, 03:46 PM   #241
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Well, I was offered the new seat today. We are having a minor tussle over me not wanting to start from scratch on the promotion track after a year plus of doing above-grade work, but assuming I was appropriately diplomatic about it and did not make them feel like they are being shaken down, I have a new seat to move to. Hopefully this is better than out of the frying pan into the fire. I think it will be for the better.
YES!!! This is great news, Brewer.
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Under OPM rules the new manager may not have a lot of options. Listen carefully when s/he comes back to you. Maybe your personnel office can work with the both of you to figure out something that would meet your needs.
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Under OPM rules the new manager may not have a lot of options. Listen carefully when s/he comes back to you. Maybe your personnel office can work with the both of you to figure out something that would meet your needs.
I do not have to worry about OPM rules, as they do not apply. Having said that, very likely I am boned on this one. I felt that I would be doing a disservice to myself and all the blood, sweat and tears I have shed over the last year and change if I did not bring the issue up. Self respect aside, I expect I am boned and will have to live with it and move on. Since I am getting out of the ditch and moving to a spot I could live with for the next 3 to 5 years it will likely take me before I ESR, so be it.
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Your mental and physical health is primary. If they won't give you what you want from the standpoint of compensation just start building a track record in your new job that works for you. Imagine what you want 5 years hence and whack a path to your goal.

Your experience may well be the foundation of a good book. Start keeping a diary.
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Your mental and physical health is primary. If they won't give you what you want from the standpoint of compensation just start building a track record in your new job that works for you. Imagine what you want 5 years hence and whack a path to your goal.

Your experience may well be the foundation of a good book. Start keeping a diary.
I would not be willing to ever do a book because i would probably be sued into dust by my present employer, plus I am a private person. "Get off my land!"

Realistically, I think we can financially get to where we want to be for ESR in 3 to 5 years, so I only need to find something I can stand for that long.
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Well, I was offered the new seat today.
Excellent.

Did management make their decision before reading this thread, or after?
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*Sigh* Here we go. Full court press by the incumbents to retain me and stop others from stampeding.

Here is a clue: try asking me what it will take to keep me. Simply begging and making vague promises that we are finally going to fix the problem is not sufficient.

Will play the game, but barring the summary firing of a couple layers of management, I am gone.
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*Sigh* Here we go. Full court press by the incumbents to retain me and stop others from stampeding.

Here is a clue: try asking me what it will take to keep me. Simply begging and making vague promises that we are finally going to fix the problem is not sufficient.

Will play the game, but barring the summary firing of a couple layers of management, I am gone.
Oh I was so expecting that full court press!! Amazing how that happens - all of a sudden mad scramble to try to retain someone way too late. Hmmm - yeah, I guess they also finally see the writing on the wall in terms of others fleeing.

More details! I like this part - all that groveling!

I am very pleased on your behalf.

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They are begging for time, saying that they are about to unveil a "radical" reorg shortly. Ho hum. My guess is that they will fix the wrong problem (again), and since not only did they not ask what I want but they also made no mention of anything other than twiddling some of the many layers of mgmt, it is a bunch on nonsense. I will give them a modicum of time to do what they have to do, but to be honest I am not interested. I hope they do the reorg and them lose half their people anyway.
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They are begging for time, saying that they are about to unveil a "radical" reorg shortly. Ho hum. My guess is that they will fix the wrong problem (again), and since not only did they not ask what I want but they also made no mention of anything other than twiddling some of the many layers of mgmt, it is a bunch on nonsense. I will give them a modicum of time to do what they have to do, but to be honest I am not interested. I hope they do the reorg and them lose half their people anyway.
So are you having to delay your transfer?

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So are you having to delay your transfer?

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I am having a minor tussle with my HR contact over credit toward a promotion as I jump tracks, since I do not want to walk away from a year plus of blood, sweat and tears with nothing to show for it. Since there is a snowstorm here and people are going home early, I do not know if I will hear back today. If I do, I may have to ask for time until Monday just to avoid making enemies.
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Nowthe game is on. All concerned have a Monday afternoon deadline. I feel a bit like the taffy in a taffy pull, but it is niceto put pressure on those above me for once.
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The group you are in right now has fundimental work culture issues that I don't believe can be cured in the short term. This is higher management's opportunity (excuse) to take action but I wouldn't want to be there when they do that.

Assuming the new position meets your needs, take it.
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