|
|
How to turn down recruiters with FIRE in sight?
09-22-2013, 09:01 AM
|
#1
|
Recycles dryer sheets
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 83
|
How to turn down recruiters with FIRE in sight?
I should reach FI in about 20 months, barring a market meltdown. I want to hunker down in my current job for the sprint to the finish.
Recruiters continue to contact me with job opportunities, mostly via email through Linkedin. As a hedge to single employer risk, I'd like to keep my FIRE plans quiet and "pretend" that I still desire a progressive career track. I'm struggling to find the right words for a response. I'm technically underemployed and these opportunities are for higher level positions.
Any suggestions?
|
|
|
|
Join the #1 Early Retirement and Financial Independence Forum Today - It's Totally Free!
Are you planning to be financially independent as early as possible so you can live life on your own terms? Discuss successful investing strategies, asset allocation models, tax strategies and other related topics in our online forum community. Our members range from young folks just starting their journey to financial independence, military retirees and even multimillionaires. No matter where you fit in you'll find that Early-Retirement.org is a great community to join. Best of all it's totally FREE!
You are currently viewing our boards as a guest so you have limited access to our community. Please take the time to register and you will gain a lot of great new features including; the ability to participate in discussions, network with our members, see fewer ads, upload photographs, create a retirement blog, send private messages and so much, much more!
|
09-22-2013, 09:14 AM
|
#2
|
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 14,328
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gerbil Wheel
...... I'm struggling to find the right words for a response. ..........Any suggestions?
|
How about "No, thanks"?
|
|
|
09-22-2013, 09:19 AM
|
#3
|
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Texas: No Country for Old Men
Posts: 50,022
|
.
__________________
Numbers is hard
|
|
|
09-22-2013, 09:23 AM
|
#4
|
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 2,301
|
I don't have any remorse blowing off recruiters.
Unless its someone I know personally or they've gone through a lot of effort (obviously made careful consideration) I just ignore them. Otherwise you can always say not looking to move right now, but I will let you know if my plans change.
|
|
|
09-22-2013, 09:25 AM
|
#5
|
Recycles dryer sheets
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 67
|
Why not just be honest?
I am working on an interesting project right now and I want to complete it before I move on. The project will wrap up in 18-20 months.
__________________
Don't sweat the petty stuff.
|
|
|
09-22-2013, 09:29 AM
|
#6
|
Recycles dryer sheets
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 83
|
But what if I get laid off unexpectedly and then want to pursue these other opportunities? What can I say now that would position me most favorably in that event?
|
|
|
09-22-2013, 09:59 AM
|
#7
|
Full time employment: Posting here.
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Atlanta suburbs
Posts: 900
|
I tell recruiters that at this point of my career and life I'm not interested in job change, but I'll let them know if my circumstances change.
|
|
|
09-22-2013, 10:07 AM
|
#8
|
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 3,906
|
"You'd have to pay me too much to do that job."
|
|
|
09-22-2013, 10:23 AM
|
#9
|
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: NC
Posts: 21,305
|
Like others have said, just say "no thanks," you don't have to divulge your plans. It's easy to find lots of "legitimate reasons" you aren't interested - salary/benefits, relocation/commute, advancement potential, job specifics, happy where you are (whether true or not), etc.
__________________
No one agrees with other people's opinions; they merely agree with their own opinions -- expressed by somebody else. Sydney Tremayne
Retired Jun 2011 at age 57
Target AA: 50% equity funds / 45% bonds / 5% cash
Target WR: Approx 1.5% Approx 20% SI (secure income, SS only)
|
|
|
09-22-2013, 10:29 AM
|
#10
|
Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 17,774
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gerbil Wheel
But what if I get laid off unexpectedly and then want to pursue these other opportunities? What can I say now that would position me most favorably in that event?
|
You don't want them to bug you if you don't need them but you want them there for you if you do. I don't think you can have it both ways?
__________________
“Would you like an adventure now, or would you like to have your tea first?” J.M. Barrie, Peter Pan
|
|
|
09-22-2013, 10:44 AM
|
#11
|
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 2,301
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gerbil Wheel
But what if I get laid off unexpectedly and then want to pursue these other opportunities?
|
If you are in a profession where you get recruiters chasing you, I imagine that you would get decent sevrance + unemployment insurance. Would this not be enough to carry you the rest of the way to FIRE?
|
|
|
09-22-2013, 11:57 AM
|
#12
|
Recycles dryer sheets
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 83
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by photoguy
If you are in a profession where you get recruiters chasing you, I imagine that you would get decent sevrance + unemployment insurance. Would this not be enough to carry you the rest of the way to FIRE?
|
Perhaps, if it occurred at the right time. In fact I may try to "engineer my layoff" a la Financial Samurai near the end of the 20 months.
|
|
|
09-22-2013, 12:35 PM
|
#13
|
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 1,797
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gerbil Wheel
But what if I get laid off unexpectedly and then want to pursue these other opportunities? What can I say now that would position me most favorably in that event?
|
You could tell the recruiters you are currently in a stable position but may be open to the "right opportunity" depending upon the circumstances. In the circumstance of an unexpected layoff the "right opportunity" could be as simple as another comparably-paid j#b for the next 20mo or so.
And it's possible you might change your mind about RE over the next couple years.
BTW- Depending on your present employer, profession, & state of residence, severance or unemployment may be iffy propositions.
|
|
|
09-22-2013, 12:39 PM
|
#14
|
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: the City of Subdued Excitement
Posts: 5,588
|
If you get laid off, you will become a pariah. No one will talk to you, no one will return your e-mails or phone calls. LinkedIn will be of no help to you. I am not trying to be cruel here, but why did you join in the first place? Just tell them you are not looking right now, thanks anyway.
I quit LinkedIn a couple of years ago because of unwanted contacts by agencies (among other things). (Nuts to them. I find my own jobs anyway. I can get a job when nobody else can. I do not want a higher level job anyway.) I ignored them and pulled the plug (which is hard to do; just try to find how to on their web site).
By the way, with luck, I am the same distance from the finish line.
__________________
I have outlived most of the people I don't like and I am working on the rest.
|
|
|
09-22-2013, 12:54 PM
|
#15
|
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: NC
Posts: 21,305
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by ERhoosier
You could tell the recruiters you are currently in a stable position but may be open to the "right opportunity" depending upon the circumstances. In the circumstance of an unexpected layoff the "right opportunity" could be as simple as another comparably-paid j#b for the next 20mo or so.
And it's possible you might change your mind about RE over the next couple years.
|
Unless your credentials are unique/scarce/high demand, I suspect most recruiters know when they're being strung along, and move on quickly. But it might work, no harm in trying...
__________________
No one agrees with other people's opinions; they merely agree with their own opinions -- expressed by somebody else. Sydney Tremayne
Retired Jun 2011 at age 57
Target AA: 50% equity funds / 45% bonds / 5% cash
Target WR: Approx 1.5% Approx 20% SI (secure income, SS only)
|
|
|
09-22-2013, 01:41 PM
|
#16
|
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 18,085
|
Recruiters are whores, at best. Any time I have been stupid or desperate to deal with one of them, I have regretted it. Tell them you are not interested and move on with life. If you need to get another job, you will get it (not the recruiter)
__________________
"All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others."
- George Orwell
Ezekiel 23:20
|
|
|
09-22-2013, 09:41 PM
|
#17
|
Recycles dryer sheets
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 252
|
Some recruiters are ok, many are not. But they are making a living by placing people, in my experience you are best to say no thanks and not give reasons, because they will try to solve any hurdle you suggest. You are just better off to keep it short and avoid any reasons for follow-up.
|
|
|
09-22-2013, 09:47 PM
|
#18
|
Recycles dryer sheets
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 287
|
The good thing about recruiters, is they do slow down once you are done working. They prefer folks with jobs.
|
|
|
09-23-2013, 05:21 AM
|
#19
|
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Houston
Posts: 4,337
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by brewer12345
Recruiters are whores, at best. Any time I have been stupid or desperate to deal with one of them, I have regretted it. Tell them you are not interested and move on with life. If you need to get another job, you will get it (not the recruiter)
|
I can't believe you are insulting whores like that. Where are the moderators when we need them?
As for the OP, you say you are "underemployed." That tells me that you are also "underpaid." I don't see anything wrong with taking a different position that you intend to leave in 20 months unless there is a cost in moving, etc making a move not cost effective. You may get there sooner with more money.
Unless you know its a viable policy, I wouldn't put too much hope in being able to engineer a severance package with unemployment. The companies I've been with have been pretty stingy with those unless there was a real need to reduce staffing. Agitators get asked to move on before being "moved on" by the company.
__________________
The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane -- Marcus Aurelius
|
|
|
09-23-2013, 05:26 AM
|
#20
|
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 2,301
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gerbil Wheel
In fact I may try to "engineer my layoff" a la Financial Samurai near the end of the 20 months.
|
How does that work in a nutshell? I've skimmed that site before but it don't remember it revealing anything about how to laid off (seem more like an infomercial pushing an "investing secret").
|
|
|
|
|
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
|
» Recent Threads
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
» Quick Links
|
|
|