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Old 09-22-2013, 10:01 AM   #1
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How to turn down recruiters with FIRE in sight?

I should reach FI in about 20 months, barring a market meltdown. I want to hunker down in my current job for the sprint to the finish.

Recruiters continue to contact me with job opportunities, mostly via email through Linkedin. As a hedge to single employer risk, I'd like to keep my FIRE plans quiet and "pretend" that I still desire a progressive career track. I'm struggling to find the right words for a response. I'm technically underemployed and these opportunities are for higher level positions.

Any suggestions?
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Old 09-22-2013, 10:14 AM   #2
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...... I'm struggling to find the right words for a response. ..........Any suggestions?
How about "No, thanks"?
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Old 09-22-2013, 10:23 AM   #4
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I don't have any remorse blowing off recruiters.

Unless its someone I know personally or they've gone through a lot of effort (obviously made careful consideration) I just ignore them. Otherwise you can always say not looking to move right now, but I will let you know if my plans change.
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Why not just be honest?

I am working on an interesting project right now and I want to complete it before I move on. The project will wrap up in 18-20 months.
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But what if I get laid off unexpectedly and then want to pursue these other opportunities? What can I say now that would position me most favorably in that event?
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I tell recruiters that at this point of my career and life I'm not interested in job change, but I'll let them know if my circumstances change.
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Like others have said, just say "no thanks," you don't have to divulge your plans. It's easy to find lots of "legitimate reasons" you aren't interested - salary/benefits, relocation/commute, advancement potential, job specifics, happy where you are (whether true or not), etc.
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But what if I get laid off unexpectedly and then want to pursue these other opportunities? What can I say now that would position me most favorably in that event?
You don't want them to bug you if you don't need them but you want them there for you if you do. I don't think you can have it both ways?
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But what if I get laid off unexpectedly and then want to pursue these other opportunities?
If you are in a profession where you get recruiters chasing you, I imagine that you would get decent sevrance + unemployment insurance. Would this not be enough to carry you the rest of the way to FIRE?
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Old 09-22-2013, 12:57 PM   #12
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If you are in a profession where you get recruiters chasing you, I imagine that you would get decent sevrance + unemployment insurance. Would this not be enough to carry you the rest of the way to FIRE?
Perhaps, if it occurred at the right time. In fact I may try to "engineer my layoff" a la Financial Samurai near the end of the 20 months.
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But what if I get laid off unexpectedly and then want to pursue these other opportunities? What can I say now that would position me most favorably in that event?
You could tell the recruiters you are currently in a stable position but may be open to the "right opportunity" depending upon the circumstances. In the circumstance of an unexpected layoff the "right opportunity" could be as simple as another comparably-paid j#b for the next 20mo or so.
And it's possible you might change your mind about RE over the next couple years.

BTW- Depending on your present employer, profession, & state of residence, severance or unemployment may be iffy propositions.
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If you get laid off, you will become a pariah. No one will talk to you, no one will return your e-mails or phone calls. LinkedIn will be of no help to you. I am not trying to be cruel here, but why did you join in the first place? Just tell them you are not looking right now, thanks anyway.

I quit LinkedIn a couple of years ago because of unwanted contacts by agencies (among other things). (Nuts to them. I find my own jobs anyway. I can get a job when nobody else can. I do not want a higher level job anyway.) I ignored them and pulled the plug (which is hard to do; just try to find how to on their web site).

By the way, with luck, I am the same distance from the finish line.
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You could tell the recruiters you are currently in a stable position but may be open to the "right opportunity" depending upon the circumstances. In the circumstance of an unexpected layoff the "right opportunity" could be as simple as another comparably-paid j#b for the next 20mo or so.
And it's possible you might change your mind about RE over the next couple years.
Unless your credentials are unique/scarce/high demand, I suspect most recruiters know when they're being strung along, and move on quickly. But it might work, no harm in trying...
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Recruiters are whores, at best. Any time I have been stupid or desperate to deal with one of them, I have regretted it. Tell them you are not interested and move on with life. If you need to get another job, you will get it (not the recruiter)
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Some recruiters are ok, many are not. But they are making a living by placing people, in my experience you are best to say no thanks and not give reasons, because they will try to solve any hurdle you suggest. You are just better off to keep it short and avoid any reasons for follow-up.
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Old 09-22-2013, 10:47 PM   #18
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The good thing about recruiters, is they do slow down once you are done working. They prefer folks with jobs.
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Recruiters are whores, at best. Any time I have been stupid or desperate to deal with one of them, I have regretted it. Tell them you are not interested and move on with life. If you need to get another job, you will get it (not the recruiter)
I can't believe you are insulting whores like that. Where are the moderators when we need them?

As for the OP, you say you are "underemployed." That tells me that you are also "underpaid." I don't see anything wrong with taking a different position that you intend to leave in 20 months unless there is a cost in moving, etc making a move not cost effective. You may get there sooner with more money.

Unless you know its a viable policy, I wouldn't put too much hope in being able to engineer a severance package with unemployment. The companies I've been with have been pretty stingy with those unless there was a real need to reduce staffing. Agitators get asked to move on before being "moved on" by the company.
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In fact I may try to "engineer my layoff" a la Financial Samurai near the end of the 20 months.
How does that work in a nutshell? I've skimmed that site before but it don't remember it revealing anything about how to laid off (seem more like an infomercial pushing an "investing secret").
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