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Old 03-19-2015, 01:19 PM   #1
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If U.I. is exhausted, does this no longer show as un-employed

In the statistics, someone who has exhausted U.i. benefits, but is still actively looking for work , does this person drop off the government stats as un-employed ? Reason I ask, the official UI rate for California is mid 6 %. As a lifelong CA resident, this is fantasy IMHO.
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Old 03-19-2015, 01:48 PM   #2
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I briefly looked into this last year.

From recollection, my understanding is that the unemployed rate is determined by telephone surveys.

One of the questions that they ask is "Are you still looking for work?" - or something similar. If you answer no then you fall off the number that determines the unemployment rate.

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The way I understand it is yes, if you exhaust your benefit, you also drop off the looking for work statistics. Even if still looking for work

Related, if you are underemployed, such as part-time or a lower income job than you had previously, you are also dropped off the looking for work statistic. Even though you still may be pursuing a new job equal to your previous.
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Old 03-19-2015, 02:49 PM   #4
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The way I understand it is yes, if you exhaust your benefit, you also drop off the looking for work statistics. Even if still looking for work

Related, if you are underemployed, such as part-time or a lower income job than you had previously, you are also dropped off the looking for work statistic. Even though you still may be pursuing a new job equal to your previous.
Here is a link to what I think I found last time that describes how the Federal government (bureau of labor statistics) calculates unemployment.

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Early each month, the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) of the U.S. Department of Labor announces the total number of employed and unemployed people in the United States for the previous month, along with many characteristics about them. These figures, particularly the unemployment rate—which tells you the percentage of the labor force that is unemployed—receive wide coverage in the media.


Some people think that to get these figures on unemployment, the government uses the number of people collecting unemployment insurance (UI) benefits under state or federal government programs. But some people are still jobless when their benefits run out, and many more are not eligible at all or delay or never apply for benefits. So, quite clearly, UI information cannot be used as a source for complete information on the number of unemployed.
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There are about 60,000 eligible households in the sample for this survey. This translates into approximately 110,000 individuals each month, a large sample compared to public opinion surveys, which usually cover fewer than 2,000 people. The CPS sample is selected so as to be representative of the entire population of the United States. In order to select the sample, all of the counties and independent cities in the country first are grouped into approximately 2,000 geographic areas (sampling units). The Census Bureau then designs and selects a sample of about 800 of these geographic areas to represent each state and the District of Columbia. The sample is a state-based design and reflects urban and rural areas, different types of industrial and farming areas, and the major geographic divisions of each state. (For a detailed explanation of CPS sampling methodology, see Chapter 1 of the BLS Handbook of Methods.)
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