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Is anyone sad that the stock market is going up?
03-16-2012, 12:19 PM
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Is anyone sad that the stock market is going up?
Young Dreamers,
Is there anyone that is unhappy the stock market is making its recovery so quickly?
I was personally hoping for another few years of zero or negative returns before things really started to heat up. My goal was to squirrel away more investment contributions while stock prices were low.
I guess the positive is that as the economy recovers job prospects and salaries should get better. The thought being that I can get a bigger raise or better job that will allow more investment contributions, albeit at higher investment prices.
Sure would be nice to get a bunch more investments at March 2009 prices...
I guess there are others out there that may be unhappy the market is recovering so much because they went to mostly or all cash sometime in the last 4 years thinking the end is coming and it is only going to get worse.
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03-16-2012, 12:37 PM
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I'm pretty bummed. Even though I'm 90% equity/10% bond allocation on most of my portfolio, I was hoping for low return or even double dip.
Another reason is because traffic's been lighter. If the economy gets back to 4% unemployment, traffic's really going to suck again.
I was thinking about increase in job prospect like you but I prefer benefits of sucky economy compared to job prospect.
One hope is that gas price go up to $6+ and tank the economy but that's unlikely...
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03-16-2012, 12:44 PM
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There will be other buying opportunities, I'm sure.
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03-16-2012, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by FIREd
There will be other buying opportunities, I'm sure.
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What concerns me is that I am investing each month as the paychecks come rolling in. Five years from now I would be much wealthier if I was dollar cost averaging into a market that stayed low or declined for 4 years then recovered to, say, DOW 14000 than if the market were to jump to 14000 this year and then stay there for the next 5 years.
I am sure there will be more buying opportunities, maybe even in the next 5 years!
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03-16-2012, 01:35 PM
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i will have to admit that a little bump upwards in the market was welcome.
I guess if I could have my ways I would always be buying on sale, and then flick my wand right before I retire to get the market to where I need. I'd probably lay on another indolent flick as well to get an extra bump for some cushion.
but steady, consistent growth is probably better for the whole.
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03-16-2012, 02:15 PM
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Look at a stock chart of the 80's and 90's. The DOW went from 1000 to 10000. The people buying at 2000 did fine.
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Originally Posted by FUEGO
What concerns me is that I am investing each month as the paychecks come rolling in. Five years from now I would be much wealthier if I was dollar cost averaging into a market that stayed low or declined for 4 years then recovered to, say, DOW 14000 than if the market were to jump to 14000 this year and then stay there for the next 5 years.
I am sure there will be more buying opportunities, maybe even in the next 5 years!
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03-16-2012, 02:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FUEGO
Young Dreamers,
Is there anyone that is unhappy the stock market is making its recovery so quickly?
I was personally hoping for another few years of zero or negative returns before things really started to heat up. My goal was to squirrel away more investment contributions while stock prices were low.
I guess the positive is that as the economy recovers job prospects and salaries should get better. The thought being that I can get a bigger raise or better job that will allow more investment contributions, albeit at higher investment prices.
Sure would be nice to get a bunch more investments at March 2009 prices...
I guess there are others out there that may be unhappy the market is recovering so much because they went to mostly or all cash sometime in the last 4 years thinking the end is coming and it is only going to get worse.
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Our economy is based on the premise that only a few people can do well. So when you start hearing about how everyone is making money in the market, it's time to bail. This is a Fed driven rally just as was the real estate " boom".
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03-16-2012, 02:27 PM
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I've probably bought all the equities I plan to buy, many of them on dips, and I am glad to see signs of improvement in the US economy.
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03-16-2012, 03:06 PM
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1) Buy low, sell high
2) Buy high, sell higher
Other than that, sit tight. Patience is a virtue (and a money maker)
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03-16-2012, 03:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Meadbh
I've probably bought all the equities I plan to buy, many of them on dips, and I am glad to see signs of improvement in the US economy.
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I am definitely happy to see "green sprouts", I hear it has been a mild winter for the mainland folks.
I am somewhat indifferent to the stock market to going up, but delighted to see an rapid increase in dividend payments. Now if can just get interest rates up a bit I think it will help everybody's retirement. Although admittedly it sucks for those young dreamer buying real estate with leverage.
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03-16-2012, 03:21 PM
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It's an election year. I'm sure it will go down after the election is over.
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03-16-2012, 03:22 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tmm99
It's an election year.
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Didn't help 2008 very much...
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03-16-2012, 04:19 PM
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What goes up, must come down. Oh the pain of it all.
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03-16-2012, 05:47 PM
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I'll admit that back in 2008, before there was enough data to confirm what was going on, I was looking at my portfolio, combined with my income and safe job, and thought "Damn, what I need is a good recession!".
Now that we're hopefully coming out of it, I don't think I'll miss it. Although my portfolio is up strong, I just feel less secure. Between everyone raising taxes and fees, "low inflation", impacts to friends/family, and the rollercoaster from hell (100% equities going in and coming out), I'm ready for a steady period of growth.
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03-16-2012, 10:06 PM
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I am cautiously estatic about the market going up
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03-16-2012, 10:09 PM
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I am un-cautiously ecstatic about it.
But then you knew that!
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03-16-2012, 11:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ls99
What goes up, must come down. Oh the pain of it all.
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Yeah. Anyone that's been following the Elliott Wave theoreticians knows that we now face an ABC Grand Supercycle down leg, at the culmination of which we will retest the market lows of 1789.
I've adjusted my withdrawal rates as appropriate. ;-)
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03-17-2012, 12:13 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ziggy29
Didn't help 2008 very much...
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I should have said re-election year...
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03-17-2012, 12:54 AM
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I have been expecting a double dip too.
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Originally Posted by HatePayingTaxes
....I was hoping for low return or even double dip.
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03-17-2012, 08:45 AM
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Stock market aside, I am thrilled that the economy finally seems to be showing signs of recovery. I will take what I can out of the trend, but much more important is some lessening of the large human toll that the crash caused.
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