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Old 11-28-2009, 05:16 PM   #161
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Here is some helpful reading

Hi GoodSense,

In the end, as one get's through one's 30's you have to create your own reason for being. FIRE is a nice thing, but it's not a destination, it's a process to your own satisfaction and meaning.

Below are a few tools that can change lives. Maybe one or more will be useful. I suggest you start at the bottom of the list and work up.

Best of wishes, you have great prospects and it's all yours to make happen.
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Books of importance
Excellent site to buy used books, if not at your library which is the best place to start since saves money for FIRE
http://www.abebooks.com/

The Black Swan: The impact of the highly improbable
Nassim Nicholas Taleb

The 80/20 Principle: The secret of achieving more with less
Richard Koch

Actually the Black Swan and the 80/20 speak somewhat to the same challenge, but are both very different in focus and concepts of what to do.

The 7 Levels of Change: Diffferent thinking for diffferent results
Rolf Smith

The Myth of the Rational Market: A history of risk, reward and delusion on Wall Street
Justin Fox

How to Retire Happy, Wild and Free: Retirement wisdom you won’t get from your financial advisor
Ernie J. Zelinski

The Power of Now: A guide to spiritual enlightenment
Eckhart Tolle

Love & Death: My journey through the valley of the shadow
Forrest Church

Flow: The psychology of optimal experience
Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi
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Old 12-16-2009, 12:22 AM   #162
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Thanks folks for all the helpful suggestions. I especially appreciate the reading list. For a few years I almost completely stopped reading for fun (no time, too much running around to do, etc.). Only in the last few months I started reading again, and it's been great. I am a slow reader when I am relaxed, so I can only read one to two books a month, but even the small numbers add up.
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Old 12-22-2009, 05:44 PM   #163
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Wow, this was a great thread to find! I have a lot of the same fears, &, like a lot of people, I try to pour the money that I do spend into experiences, instead of stuff. My one main exception is art. There are certain artists (like Mark Bryan, specifically his "learning to fly" series) that I'll buy prints from, because I can stare at them for hours & smile. But those purchases only come after months of mulling over the image.

One thing that I've been reminding myself, when I start to feel like I'm too FIRE-focused is: "If I die tonight, will I be OK with what I did today?" For me, that doesn't give me permission to buy every latte & sparkly jewel that catches my eye. But it does remind me that if I'm feeling really down & drained, I need to do *something* to be good to myself. I keep a little mental list of small indulgances that really make my day. Right now, that would be a chunk of good, rare steak (bought on sale, sliced into 6oz servings in my freezer), a bubble bath (with bath products I got as a gift), some cheap Yellowtail red wine ($7.99), & a good book (free from the library). A very nice mini-vacation, for very little cash.
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Old 12-25-2009, 09:30 PM   #164
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Wow, this was a great thread to find! I have a lot of the same fears, &, like a lot of people, I try to pour the money that I do spend into experiences, instead of stuff. My one main exception is art. There are certain artists (like Mark Bryan, specifically his "learning to fly" series) that I'll buy prints from, because I can stare at them for hours & smile. But those purchases only come after months of mulling over the image.

One thing that I've been reminding myself, when I start to feel like I'm too FIRE-focused is: "If I die tonight, will I be OK with what I did today?" For me, that doesn't give me permission to buy every latte & sparkly jewel that catches my eye. But it does remind me that if I'm feeling really down & drained, I need to do *something* to be good to myself. I keep a little mental list of small indulgances that really make my day. Right now, that would be a chunk of good, rare steak (bought on sale, sliced into 6oz servings in my freezer), a bubble bath (with bath products I got as a gift), some cheap Yellowtail red wine ($7.99), & a good book (free from the library). A very nice mini-vacation, for very little cash.
Nothing wrong with spending money, as long as you get value for it. As for doing something meaningful each day, that's an admirable goal, but one that most folks can't even consider after having to complete all of the obligations they assumed. Then again, perhaps your suggestion is significant, in that most people should reassess periodically whether the various obligations they've assumed are taking them closer or further away from their goal(s) in life.

One must have the courage to ask oneself "why" every once in a while....
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As for doing something meaningful each day, that's an admirable goal, but one that most folks can't even consider after having to complete all of the obligations they assumed. Then again, perhaps your suggestion is significant, in that most people should reassess periodically whether the various obligations they've assumed are taking them closer or further away from their goal(s) in life.

One must have the courage to ask oneself "why" every once in a while....
I don't actually aim to do one meaningful thing every day. In fact, a lot of days, when I ask myself if I'd be OK with what I did today, if I died tonight, the answer would be "eh, it's been a boring day, but it was the right sort of day to have. I'm happy with the steps taken, even if it wasn't special".

As for asking oneself why...oh yes, I do that a lot. And if the 'why' is properly aligned with 'what' I'm looking for. I find that, if I don't, I end up on the wrong path. And even if ever step I took makes sense, when I look at the step immediately before it, the overall 'walk' actually meandered off to the side a bit. I suppose I can get easily distracted if I'm not careful.
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Old 01-09-2010, 10:52 AM   #167
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A part of me also wonders if my life is too good, that I am taking it for granted. It's hard to just change one's attitude without the environment changing, though.
Yes, but it's how you are wired. Your mind is the way it is after millions of years of adapting to an environment far, far different than what you've engineered yourself. If it were content at 30, without kids, just traveling, your genes would have been weeded out back in some prior era of time.... As you approach mid-life, my personal experience was that it just got more pronounced. I'm 36 now but I decided to have a child at 34 and it blows the doors of your doldrums. I mean, you have a mini-dictator who rules your life, tricks you out of your cheerios with all sorts of sophisticated psychological tactics, and provides countless hours of entertainment and joy...and work, and worry, and fear. And if they are happy and healthy, it's just all good. In any case, having a child resets your priorities and removes you from the center of your tired and bored universe. At least it did for me. Another alternative is job change or starting a business. Not for the faint of heart, but new challenges are also a big game-changer. Don't feel bad, I mean, half the population turns to drugs, alcohol, cheating, etc. to overcome that..so if you have good sense and least you avoid those traps. I started a business and had a kid, and I don't really wonder what I'm doing or what I'll be doing tomorrow. A dynamic, changing, challenging environment, with spare time only in moderation...is one way that may cure the rut.
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