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Old 04-01-2015, 04:36 PM   #41
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Correct.
"In three days, the stock price fell to $34 from almost $44."

However today it's at $73.
It's had three, 2 for 1 splits since then!
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Old 04-01-2015, 05:13 PM   #42
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What kind of CEO makes sweeping claims about "a very unhealthy environment", says "I am through with the debate (sic!)", threatens employees with dismissal, and finishes with "I want to hear from you. If you think I am wrong with any of this, please state your case".

Yeah, sure boss.
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Old 04-01-2015, 05:39 PM   #43
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Interesting culture.

While in extremly poor taste; folks I know that claimed they knew him said that memo was out of character. Goes to show, lose it as a leader in a public arena and 14 years later people still remember.
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So true. E.g., George Patton and Sandra Gotlieb will be forever remembered for their respective public slapping incidents. And whatever her future career may hold, heiress Cho Hyun-ah / Heather Cho will be recalled as the Nut Rage woman.

Anyway, to get back to the o/p's question: although punching in and out is not required in white collar jobs, in many industries 'face time' (i.e., long hours of physical presence in the office) is associated with hard work and thus is still a de facto requirement. See e.g. below.

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My point is that if there is someone who works through lunch, is in the office every day and doesn't use all their vacation time, don't be upset if they move ahead faster than you.
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I am in a bit of disagreement with some others (surprise!), as I DO think it is generational, or maybe partly location and type of work. I could easily see non-managerial roles where most of what you said is your work-life preference would be just fine. In my particular case, manufacturing plant, that's not possible. My managers, engineers, and other support functions can't support the 300+ people trying to make widgets from home. I am definitely not a clock watcher (for the support personnel), and occasional long lunch, kids school events, etc are encouraged. I think it makes a happier person, which makes a happier employee. Other industries or occupations where someone is not directly relying on your efforts, knowledge, support might have more leeway to your lifestyle.

The thing I have noticed: The newest group coming in, mainly college educated professionals, have a different expectation for work-life balance. Sometimes it doesn't fit with the career path they have chosen, or are thinking of choosing and trying out. It's a conversation that I feel is much better to have with someone starting out early in their working life, and I try and let them know what the expectations are in this industry (particularly automotive, which is very tough by itself) and suggest they self assess if that is what they really want to do for 20-30 years. Once the decision is made, although we are not saving lives, this industry expects that you act as though you are! Low margins, and tough competition means sometimes you are saving a life.... your own work and financial life. Too dramatic? It is what it is.
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