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Old 06-17-2013, 02:24 PM   #161
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That reminds me of a date I had a couple of years ago.

On a first date with a guy (let's call him John), among the half-dozen things we did that day (coffee shop, farmer's market, hike, lunch, etc.), John wanted to show me a nearby privately-owned swimming lake/campground nearby that a corn farmer runs on part of his unfarmed land.

As we were leaving (and waiting for the farmer to come out and open the gate for us), John proceeds to tell me that on a previous visit, he had stopped his car near the corn field and helped himself to several ears of corn. As John was exiting, the farmer (who must have some sort of surveillance system) angrily demanded the purloined corn and reprimanded John.

I found it quite interesting that John 1) told me the story and 2) expressed indignation with the farmer's actions.

Needless to say, based on this and some of John's other behaviors, I never went out with him again.

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Somehow I thought this story was leading up to a suggestion by John of "skinny dipping" at the swimming hole........ Of course the farmer's surveillance system would have made that a candidate for a great You Tube posting.

(Sorry, kind of a boring afternoon here today. )
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Old 06-17-2013, 02:58 PM   #162
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I will admit to participating in a dine-n-dash... But only after attempting to pay for more than 30 minutes. We asked for the check. We waiting 10 minutes and asked again. We flagged another server and asked at the 20 minute mark. then we left at the 30 minute mark - because we would miss our movie.

It was a group of about 5 of us.

I still don't feel guilt about that - if you can't even get the check - how do you pay.
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Old 06-17-2013, 03:12 PM   #163
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I will admit to participating in a dine-n-dash... But only after attempting to pay for more than 30 minutes. We asked for the check. We waiting 10 minutes and asked again. We flagged another server and asked at the 20 minute mark. then we left at the 30 minute mark - because we would miss our movie.

It was a group of about 5 of us.

I still don't feel guilt about that - if you can't even get the check - how do you pay.
1) You could guesstimate (incl tax)and leave that in cash on the table or hand it to the waitstaff.
2) You could go back after the movie, explain the situation, and pay.
3) You could call the restaurant, fess up and pay via credit card.

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I will admit to participating in a dine-n-dash... But only after attempting to pay for more than 30 minutes. We asked for the check. We waiting 10 minutes and asked again. We flagged another server and asked at the 20 minute mark. then we left at the 30 minute mark
DW and I had a similar experience - but we couldn't find anyone to ask for the check. We waited for several minutes after finishing our meal for the check but she never returned. We didn't see her or any other restaurant employee after our server brought our order. The entire staff vanished.

This was during lunch in downtown Victoria, BC and there were a dozen or so other customers also looking for their server or their food. I even went back into the kitchen looking for someone - no one in sight.

Creepy. We left, caught the ferry back to the US and consider ourselves persona non grata in Greater Canukistan.
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1) You could guesstimate (incl tax)and leave that in cash on the table or hand it to the waitstaff.
2) You could go back after the movie, explain the situation, and pay.
3) You could call the restaurant, fess up and pay via credit card.

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It was 30 years ago. The restaurant went out of business about 15 years ago.

I guess I should have done what you said - but it didn't occur to me. Actually we considered #1, but it was a very crowded bar section of a restaurant - and we were worried it would be swiped by other patrons.

We'd made a very good effort to pay (asking for the check 3 times, over 30 minutes.) We didn't sneak out. It was poor service on their part that caused the problem.

I feel no guilt over this one. If I had snuck out, or tried to dodge paying, I would feel guilty... but we couldn't get a check no matter how hard we tried.
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........ The restaurant went out of business about 15 years ago............
Well, I'm not surprised with everyone ripping them off.
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DW and I had a similar experience - but we couldn't find anyone to ask for the check. We waited for several minutes after finishing our meal for the check but she never returned. We didn't see her or any other restaurant employee after our server brought our order. The entire staff vanished.

This was during lunch in downtown Victoria, BC and there were a dozen or so other customers also looking for their server or their food. I even went back into the kitchen looking for someone - no one in sight.

Creepy. We left, caught the ferry back to the US and consider ourselves persona non grata in Greater Canukistan.
Maybe the restaurant staff was Raptured!
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I guess I should have done what you said - but it didn't occur to me. Actually we considered #1, but it was a very crowded bar section of a restaurant - and we were worried it would be swiped by other patrons.

We'd made a very good effort to pay (asking for the check 3 times, over 30 minutes.) We didn't sneak out. It was poor service on their part that caused the problem.

I feel no guilt over this one. If I had snuck out, or tried to dodge paying, I would feel guilty... but we couldn't get a check no matter how hard we tried.
It's not your responsibility to make extraordinary efforts to overcome their inefficiency. Waiting more than 30 minutes for the bill is ridiculous.

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Well, I'm not surprised with everyone ripping them off.
I would change to "Well, I'm not surprised when they couldn't be bothered to receive payment when repeatedly offered".
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