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Old 04-07-2009, 08:24 PM   #21
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A prudent plan should include a course of action for the possibility that the individual does not get to decide if they stay or go.
I agree. That's the motivation behind updating my resume and getting in touch with contacts I haven't talked to for a while.

It's interesting, I thought the stock price would've plummeted a lot lower than it has. Maybe there are still some investors who haven't given up on us. :-)

Then again, it's only Tuesday.

In any case, the mood at the office is more or less "back to work". I guess we're all sick of reading about analysts making predictions about where we're headed that are no more accurate than a dart-throwing monkey.
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Old 04-12-2009, 08:56 PM   #22
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Just confirming your retirment savings are fully diversified and you are not holding a lot of your employer's stock, right?
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Does the Oracle buy change anything?
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Old 04-21-2009, 01:42 PM   #24
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Does the Oracle buy change anything?
While I suspect that you are asking this question of the original poster I will put my 2 cents in.

I think this changes the situation especially if the poster is a SW engineer since Oracle is a software company. He needs to assess whether this project will be important to Oracle. If it isn't they will abandon it. Unlike Sun's culture of consensus, in fact obstruction and obfuscation, Oracle is a tops down "...do what Larry sez" culture. If the project will be important to Oracle determine if Oracle needs the Sun developers. If they can complete it with current Oracle staff they will. They are not looking for 1:1 scaling.

If the Sun acquisition is handled the same way as the PeopleSoft acquisition action will be swift. PeopleSoft employees received Saturday morning FedEx packages.

Full disclosure: I worked for Sun for 16 years and I worked for Oracle for 5 months.
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I think this changes the situation especially if the poster is a SW engineer since Oracle is a software company.
I'm actually a hardware engineer, so I think there's more FUD now than with the IBM deal. Oracle professes that they're interested in developing the hardware side of the business, but I and others have our doubts. I see strong arguments either way--they'll keep the HW b/c they want to compete with IBM, or they'll dump HW b/c they're a SW company, and HW doesn't make enough money. There's also the rumor that prior to or during the IBM talks, Oracle and HP were proposing to split Sun into SW and HW, respectively. If that's true, I'm not sure why Oracle has suddently become interested in HW during the last few weeks. So right now it's anyone's guess.

In some ways I suspect that the Sun/Oracle culture clash will be more pronounced than the Sun/IBM culture clash. Sun seems more interested in innovation, even at the expense of making money (which is one reason they're in the shape they're now in). Oracle seems to be very strongly about the bottom line. However, I'll admit that almost my total sum of knowledge of Oracle is what I've been reading about in articles for the last two days.
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However, I'll admit that almost my total sum of knowledge of Oracle is what I've been reading about in articles for the last two days.
Hunh, I was wondering if you'd called up Larry to offer him the deal of a lifetime...
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Hunh, I was wondering if you'd called up Larry to offer him the deal of a lifetime...
What is that deal? Give me a job or I'll sneak on your 500-ft yacht and pee on all the beds?
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What is that deal? Give me a job or I'll sneak on your 500-ft yacht and pee on all the beds?
As if he'd ever find out!

Years ago my FIL used to work with the crew that did Charlie Rose's show. When they'd get in the studio on a Monday morning, the guys would thank Charlie for giving them the use of his yacht last weekend and tell him how much they appreciated the amenities. It took Rose a long time to realize that they were joking-- he was such a workaholic that he hadn't visited his pleasure craft in months.

We'll have to see what kind of buyout packages Oracle is offering to their valued Java, I mean Sun, employees...
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Oracle seems to be very strongly about the bottom line. However, I'll admit that almost my total sum of knowledge of Oracle is what I've been reading about in articles for the last two days.
I would characterize Oracle as a time to market company. Get it fast, before the competition, and fix in in the next release. An old industry joke was that Oracle's primary development platform is PowerPoint -- great sales presentations. There is little of the Sun culture of the ever changing product roadmap.
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employer is getting bought out

Take it one day at a time. You really don't have to do anything today. Get you resume up to date and send it out to other companies you might be interested in. The new owner of the company might offer better benefits or other options, so it might not be a bad situation.
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