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I have also heard that not all Army WO's are instrument qualified, or fixed with qualifies.
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I should have specified that I'm just a non-rated puke, and my experience was with WOs in the logistics biz.
Nevertheless, I had plenty of rated friends and colleagues who would have cheerfully gone that route, even if it meant reduced retirement pay, just to keep flying.
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Old 05-24-2011, 07:39 AM   #43
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However, it's not like the Army, where you can come in off the street, go to boot camp and some training and be a WO. In the Navy, you have to earn E-6 or E-7 first. So probably 8-10 years at a minimum before you can make W-1, and then you have to apply for a competitive board before going off to flight school.


While there are some "high school to flight school" warrant officers in the Army, the great majority of them spent a few years as enlisted Soldiers/NCOs before going through Warrant Officer Candidate School. On the non-flight side of things, pretty much all of them were E-6 or higher before going through WOC school.

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Nevertheless, I had plenty of rated friends and colleagues who would have cheerfully gone that route, even if it meant reduced retirement pay, just to keep flying.


I've also ran into more than a few warrant officers in the Army that used to be commissioned officers, but decided to become warrants so they could fly for the remainder of their careers rather than work the staff jobs destined for mid-level and senior commissioned folks.

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I have also heard that not all Army WO's are instrument qualified, or fixed with qualifies.


Not true. All Army aviators, commissioned or warrant, graduate from flight school with an instrument rating in rotorcraft/helicopters. Depending upon which platform one transitions into after flight school, though, there may not be a whole lot of instrument flying after that. Attack helicopters like the Apaches, for example, don't really fly IFR unless they inadvertently go IMC (which is practically an emergency procedure for them). Some of the Army’s other aircraft (Blackhawks and Chinooks, for example) are made to fly IFR and their pilots tend to fly more instruments. Admittedly, though, almost all of the Army's helicopter pilots fly VFR most of the time…it’s what the mission generally calls for. The exception to that would be the Army’s relatively small fixed wing/airplane fleet (primarily used for reconnaissance/intelligence collection and also some limited VIP transport)…obviously they file/fly IFR pretty much every time they take off.
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