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Re: Pre-nuptial Agreement to Protect FIRE Nestegg
06-18-2005, 08:23 PM
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Re: Pre-nuptial Agreement to Protect FIRE Nestegg
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Ha ha Nords, I think he just called you an old dude!  |
Hey, I'm only 44, you slacker...
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06-18-2005, 09:07 PM
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Re: Pre-nuptial Agreement to Protect FIRE Nestegg
Well since I'm only 43 (for a couple more months anyhow) then you're an old dude!
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06-18-2005, 10:51 PM
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Re: Pre-nuptial Agreement to Protect FIRE Nestegg
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Sounds like the board romantics are getting to you. You've no doubt heeard about the older couple who were planning a divorce. The attorney asked "Why did you wait so long? The wife said, "We wanted to wait till the children were dead."
Plenty of late life divorces, by people who thought they had solid marriages. Or at least one of them thought that. 
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Would that be board romantics ... or "bored" romantics? Sorry, I couldn't resist. 
As for calling Nords "old", I did no such thing. I have respect for my elders.
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06-19-2005, 08:35 AM
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Re: Pre-nuptial Agreement to Protect FIRE Nestegg
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Well since I'm only 43 (for a couple more months anyhow) then you're an old dude! |
A Leo...
That explains a lot!!
BTW, this Leo will be 50 for a couple more months. Still feel like 49.9...
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06-19-2005, 09:02 AM
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Re: Pre-nuptial Agreement to Protect FIRE Nestegg
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Originally Posted by Have Funds, Will Retire
A Leo...
That explains a lot!!
BTW, this Leo will be 50 for a couple more months. Still feel like 49.9... |
Hey, I'm a Leo, what are you saying??  Turn 31 this year...aaaak, it's slipping away!
I read somewhere that the notion of marraige being a product of romance/love is an artifice dating back only a couple hundred years. Hmmph.
If my DW ever wants a divorce, worrying about my assets will not be the primary thought on my mind. 
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06-19-2005, 09:49 AM
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Re: Pre-nuptial Agreement to Protect FIRE Nestegg
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06-19-2005, 12:03 PM
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Re: Pre-nuptial Agreement to Protect FIRE Nestegg
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As for calling Nords "old", I did no such thing.* I have respect for my elders. |
No problem, son, you'll remember this day when a dewy-eyed 20-something gazes respectfully up at you and calls you "Sir"...
Now I have to go polish all my reading glasses. Just as soon as I can find the damn things.
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06-19-2005, 12:07 PM
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Re: Pre-nuptial Agreement to Protect FIRE Nestegg
Nords...they're on your face.
Hmmm...bunch of INTJ engineers that are leos...
Both my wife and I are leos. Try that one out. She's 3 days older. Dont think there are any end to the 'cradle robber' jokes.
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06-19-2005, 12:15 PM
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Re: Pre-nuptial Agreement to Protect FIRE Nestegg
My advice ---- don't do it
TH's post or one of the many said the important theme --- pre-nuptial is based on the idea that the marriage will fail and I don't think too many soon to be brides/grooms want to see something like that
Marry the right one the first time and forgetta about it
But hey don't listen to a single
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06-19-2005, 12:31 PM
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But hey don't listen to a single* |
There is some good advice.*
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06-19-2005, 02:53 PM
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Re: Pre-nuptial Agreement to Protect FIRE Nestegg
A prenup makes sense in many situations. Marriage is (among other things) a legal contract. It seems perfectly sensible to tailor it to your unique needs instead of relying on the state legistlature to decide for you.
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06-19-2005, 03:34 PM
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I don't think too many soon to be brides/grooms want to see something like that
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The resultant question of such statement is "why not?" Some have said pre-nups are unromantic. That's exactly right. They're not. But if a potential spouse suddenly loses his/her love for you after being asked to sign a pre-nup, s/he isn't the right person for you. Then again, the same could be said about the person who brings up the subject of a pre-nup.
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My grandfather, who is in his mid-90s and was married to my grandmother for over 65 years once told me that "you'll never know she's the right one one until you've been married to her for 20 years...but by that time, it's too late." Wise man my grandfather. This is as good a reason for a pre-nup as any.
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Being single doesn't have much to do with it. If you're married without a pre-nup, there isn't much you can do about it.
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06-19-2005, 06:10 PM
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Re: Pre-nuptial Agreement to Protect FIRE Nestegg
I know there is some validity to a pre-nup and I am sure a lot of people with dough would like to have every potential bride to be sign one. But come on how practical is it? How is the other going to view it? I guess if you are hard up on the pre-nup then you should simply find a partner that is fine with the idea. I haven't met too many.
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06-20-2005, 12:11 PM
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I guess if you are hard up on the pre-nup then you should simply find a partner that is fine with the idea.* I haven't met too many.
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Does this imply that you have been asking, and they have been refusing?
If so, they have been doing you a favor. I find a very helpful technique is always to turn a question around. If a woman asked me to sign a pre-nup, and I refused, what could be my motivation?
Looks to me like I might want to be paid to go away sometime down the road.
Not a great recommendation for the BTB.
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06-20-2005, 04:26 PM
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Does this imply that you have been asking, and they have been refusing?
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Implies that I have asked ladies for their opinion but I don't have enough to entice them yet so I kind of asked them from a neutral perspective and still none liked the thought.*
Don't get me wrong I think pre-nups are a good idea but I am saying that it is not always reality
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06-20-2005, 04:31 PM
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Don't get me wrong I think pre-nups are a good idea but I am saying that it is not always reality
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Well, I guess I just respectfully differ. In the holy trinity of "Buy, Sell, or Hold" anyone who says non to a prenup is IMO a sell.
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06-20-2005, 06:40 PM
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Does this imply that you have been asking, and they have been refusing?
If so, they have been doing you a favor. I find a very helpful technique is always to turn a question around. If a woman asked me to sign a pre-nup, and I refused, what could be my motivation?
Looks to me like I might want to be paid to go away sometime down the road.
Not a great recommendation for the BTB.
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I'll probably draw fire for this, but I'll say it anyway. 8)
Many women are interested in a guy, at least in part, because of his assets or potential to accumulate assets, in order to obtain the lifestyle to which they would like to become accustomed. This is one reason such women dislike the idea of a pre-nuptial agreement, since they would be denied such a lifestyle if they ever sought a divorce.
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06-20-2005, 07:14 PM
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Re: Pre-nuptial Agreement to Protect FIRE Nestegg
Jay, I agree with you and I'm a woman.
But on the flip side, my net worth is in the 800K range and I would probably want a pre-nup if I ever married again. Oh, and I'm inheriting a lot too, so I want to protect that as well. And I have kids.
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06-20-2005, 08:34 PM
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Re: Pre-nuptial Agreement to Protect FIRE Nestegg
Jay - I don't think you are out of line with that one. HaHa you have had luck with that type of proposal? Do you all not think you can tell what type of lifestyle a woman wants prior to marriage or is that part of a male's selective observation? A woman's friends, fam and her own lifestyle usually tells me where she wants to go. If she changes well then I guess I am screwed. 
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06-20-2005, 10:24 PM
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Re: Pre-nuptial Agreement to Protect FIRE Nestegg
My wife likes tee shirts and shorts, budweiser and sitting out on the patio in the evening as a 'vacation'. As long as its not too hot or cold out, but I have a portable heater and a cooler just for her. She would have signed a prenup if I asked her, but found that handing over half my money was a sign of my respect and trust in her. If things dont work out, that'll be a shame as she's the finest woman I've ever met and I'm honored to have her as my wife. If and when that worst day in my life happens, we'll work it out. Moneys just money. I'll make another million if I need to.
I just cant imagine laying out the terms of our divorce in a legal document before we were even married. If I felt I had to do that, then damn it, I'd have stayed single.
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