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Old 09-20-2013, 02:06 PM   #341
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Yes give into your hate for megacorp. It gives you drive and focus to save your money for ER.........

Well at least its proving to be a driving force for me lol






I'd be careful, Luke. Carrying around hostility and hate is not good for your heart -- emotionally, spiritually, or physically. No sense in hurting yourself.

Better to aim for a sort of bemused detachment, I think.
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Old 09-20-2013, 02:43 PM   #342
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Nah, hate can be awesome...
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On more than one occasion I have had to descend into sanitary manholes to investigate problems, mostly, uh you know, blockages... the log ride at Disneyland has nothing on this. In this line of work, you better have all your shots up to date.

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Old 09-20-2013, 04:01 PM   #344
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Nah, hate can be awesome...
Rightly directed anger, well expressed, can be good. Even wrongly directed anger, poorly expressed can be fun.

But chronic hate? No, that's poison.

p.s. Ice T isn't really feeling hate there, you can tell. It's just a show to get his audience pumped up. Real hate isn't that pleasant and fun, especially when it goes on for weeks or months.
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Oh, we have new management. How fun.

They seem to think that activity is better than effectiveness, so we are getting all kinds of directives to show extensive project plans for accomplishing several new projects, but before we can review or in some cases even present the plans, we are redirected to develop extensive new project plans for completely different projects. Pretty soon I anticipate we will be asked for detailed review materials showing why our usual workload has not been accomplished for the last month while we were busy with the stream of new requests.
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Oh, we have new management. How fun.

They seem to think that activity is better than effectiveness, so we are getting all kinds of directives to show extensive project plans for accomplishing several new projects, but before we can review or in some cases even present the plans, we are redirected to develop extensive new project plans for completely different projects. Pretty soon I anticipate we will be asked for detailed review materials showing why our usual workload has not been accomplished for the last month while we were busy with the stream of new requests.

I would agree, BTW have you reviewed the Orwell - 1984 classic recently?

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they all fell it would be just jolly to send me to a pointless 2 hour meeting across the country scheduled for a Friday afternoon in December such that I will be very lucky to get home that night at all.
Do you at least get to fly business and use a black car service?

When I was at mega corp consulting it never failed to amaze me how on one hand they would talk about being "green" and trying to reduce their carbon footprint yet have no hesitation about sending someone across the country for a short meeting (happened to my co-worker for a lunch meeting).
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I got an e-mail from the "desk coordinator" (not a real supervisor; however, the real supervisor is an absentee landlord except for required paperwork, so the coordinator bosses us around) chiding me for putting too many people on cc: for an e-mail.

I've been in far more responsible jobs than she ever will be. I knew exactly what I was doing with that e-mail. That's it, keep treating me like I'm 16 years old and not very bright...are you ever gonna get a "coordinated" suprise.

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I got an e-mail from the "desk coordinator" (not a real supervisor; however, the real supervisor is an absentee landlord except for required paperwork, so the coordinator bosses us around) chiding me for putting too many people on cc: for an e-mail.

I've been in far more responsible jobs than she ever will be. I knew exactly what I was doing with that e-mail. That's it, keep treating me like I'm 16 years old and not very bright...are you ever gonna get a "coordinated" suprise.

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That's good, a self appointed email censor, that stifles communication. I hope she enjoys her 'coordinated surprise'.

Megacorp used to have a 'chair nazi'. 'All chairs when not in use must be the same height, equal distance from desk or table'. On and on, no value add as far as ergonomics. Funny when she retired, they didn't replace her position.

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Something about offices: they breed and succor the most smug, self-righteous, pettifogging sorts of people. These people get ahead on ""conscientiousness" and then the senior managers wonder (as ours did in my hearing) why we don't have more people with new ideas.

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That's good, a self appointed email censor, that stifles communication. I hope she enjoys her 'coordinated surprise'.

Megacorp used to have a 'chair nazi'. 'All chairs when not in use must be the same height, equal distance from desk or table'. On and on, no value add as far as ergonomics. Funny when she retired, they didn't replace her position.

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Were most of you approached at some point to be managers or jump up the corporate ladder? Are you sorry you turned it down?

I was lucky that my managers and bosses were more mentorlike or partners, and am still close to some younger people who I hope I acted the same with.
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On more than one occasion I have had to descend into sanitary manholes to investigate problems, mostly, uh you know, blockages... the log ride at Disneyland has nothing on this. In this line of work, you better have all your shots up to date.

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Okay, I am nominating you as a finalist in the e-r.org "best job....to leave" competition.
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When folks come in my office, they often comment of the 'Director' sign on the door. I explain that you have to go through my office to get to my boss's. That she is the Director. Then I tell them I am second in command. After a few seconds' pause, I go on to tell them there are only three of us that work here. So I am middle management. All of it. I see my boss for about an hour in an average week. And about ten minutes for the other employee.

But the worst thing about my job is trying to keep kids out of my flowerbeds, and off the brick half-wall in the lobby. There are four big flowerbeds with real plants that I keep up. The sunken area around the fireplace is separated from the flowerbed by a half-wall. Something about that wall is like a magnet to little kids. The tramp through my flowerbed to climb up on it. An event like the Pee Wee Football Banquet is the worst possible. Little boys, each one trying to out do the others. And it is right in front of my door, so I can't ignore them.

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Do you at least get to fly business and use a black car service?

When I was at mega corp consulting it never failed to amaze me how on one hand they would talk about being "green" and trying to reduce their carbon footprint yet have no hesitation about sending someone across the country for a short meeting (happened to my co-worker for a lunch meeting).
Nope. Against travel policy. Curiously, accounting tends to reject expense reports most often when you try to save on travel. Guess how hard we try to do that now...
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Okay, I am nominating you as a finalist in the e-r.org "best job....to leave" competition.
Thanks... I think.

Here's another one... As an outdoor worker in Canada, you most deal with extreme COLD. Once I had to relieve myself whilst still clothed in my rain gear (Vancouverite) because my hands were so frozen I couldn't manipulate my buttons.

The megacorp, office politics stuff, no offense to anyone here, seems so removed from the world of workplace misery I inhabit.
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Here's another one... As an outdoor worker in Canada, you most deal with extreme COLD. Once I had to relieve myself whilst still clothed in my rain gear (Vancouverite) because my hands were so frozen I couldn't manipulate my buttons.

The megacorp, office politics stuff, no offense to anyone here, seems so removed from the world of workplace misery I inhabit.
Yow, that's brutal! Back in the late '70's I heard of a state police agency that was hiring. It sounded pretty good until I learned where. They'd give you a car, a house, if you had a pilot's license (which I did) they'd give you an airplane, and a snowmobile. That last one prompted the question of "where is this Utopia"?

Alaska State Police. I immediately dismissed any thoughts of going there. I hate cold weather!
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Reminds me of my dad who did high voltage construction just outside of New York City. Northern NJ winters are pretty harsh.

BUT...he did work in an office for a few years in his youth, and hated it. He preferred to work with his hands. As a construction foreman he spent part of the day in a heated trailer.

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Thanks... I think.

Here's another one... As an outdoor worker in Canada, you most deal with extreme COLD. Once I had to relieve myself whilst still clothed in my rain gear (Vancouverite) because my hands were so frozen I couldn't manipulate my buttons.

The megacorp, office politics stuff, no offense to anyone here, seems so removed from the world of workplace misery I inhabit.
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Thanks... I think.

Here's another one... As an outdoor worker in Canada, you most deal with extreme COLD. Once I had to relieve myself whilst still clothed in my rain gear (Vancouverite) because my hands were so frozen I couldn't manipulate my buttons.

The megacorp, office politics stuff, no offense to anyone here, seems so removed from the world of workplace misery I inhabit.
My sympathy for your miserable work conditions. That sounds like hell. May ER come to you ASAP. (gardenias would be my choice)
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This is a nebulous thing, but it is a nagging doubt/worry every time I show up for work and one of the things I will be happiest to no longer have to deal with once I bail: the dread of being killed at work.

I work in a building that has (at least) hundreds of millions of dollars in it at any given point in time. Armored cars/trucks of cash come and go all day and night, and I have a window view of the parking lot where security kabuki gets played out with dogs, assault rifle toting guards, etc. There have been plenty of times when the building has been surrounded by an angry mob/protesters. There have been times when us lowly employees have had to sneak out the loading dock at the end of the day because the main entrance was unsafe to use. Even to this day, there are from time to time yahoos with bullhorns standing outside the building harranging passers-by about how my employer kills babies or whatever. I am not allowed to have so much as a can of pepper spray on my person as I go in and out due to the presence of cash (i.e. I am a soft target).
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Thanks... I think.

Here's another one... As an outdoor worker in Canada, you most deal with extreme COLD. Once I had to relieve myself whilst still clothed in my rain gear (Vancouverite) because my hands were so frozen I couldn't manipulate my buttons.

The megacorp, office politics stuff, no offense to anyone here, seems so removed from the world of workplace misery I inhabit.
I can empathize, never had to do that, there were certain Megacorp execs that could get me feeling that way-.

Worked outside for years in the north(south of Canada), but I remember how useless cold hands and fingers became. I once was cutting 6×6s to a non standard length with chainsaw. Saw kicked, couldn't grip it. A minute later brother tells me I've cut my hand from the kickback, I turned around called BS on him. He asked then why is there a pool of blood on the lumber? No pain not a clue what happened.

After they picked me up, went to ER for bout 10 stitches. Could have been much worse.

Hope you get to FIRE quickly.

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