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Old 04-27-2011, 11:31 AM   #21
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Good point, REWahoo. I'd rather start in TX than Chicago. And I confess a fondness for Austin.
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Old 04-27-2011, 12:58 PM   #22
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“We trained hard ... but it seemed that every time we were beginning to form up into teams we would be reorganized. I was to learn later in life that we tend to meet any new situation by reorganizing; and a wonderful method it can be for creating the illusion of progress while producing confusion, inefficiency, and demoralization.”
Not Gaius Petronius but applicable.
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Not Gaius Petronius but applicable.
Who is the quote from? It is perfect!
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Often attributed to Petronius Arbiter, however the first verifiable attribution is to Charlton Ogborn in "Merrill's Marauders", Harpers Magazine, January 1957.

Since you asked....
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Often attributed to Petronius Arbiter, however the first verifiable attribution is to Charlton Ogborn in "Merrill's Marauders", Harpers Magazine, January 1957.

Since you asked....
Thanks!

It is now printed up and tacked to the office wall, which will likely get me in trouble.
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It is now printed up and tacked to the office wall, which will likely get me in trouble.
Although I'm sure it will give you a degree of self-satisfaction, I suspect you can achieve the same end result by having someone tape a "kick me" sign to your back...
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And they just posted notice that 4 more people split, including an officer who I briefly worked with and would have sworn up and down was a lifer.

The quote is in a common area, so I think I am safe unless they analyze fingerprints.
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Heck, I went through more reorgs than I can count... only a few times did I get something that was a lot worse than I had...

Now, that does not prevent them from putting in a green 'up and coming' manager who knows nothing about the job you do... and then procedes to lay off everybody because they are 'too old' and think her ideas are BS... I was told by someone who worked for me in London that when she came over to 'talk to the troups' that they were going over their budget etc. etc. and trying to explain something to her... her comment back to them was 'I am not an accountant and I know nothing about foreign exchange'.... but since that was her job.... well....



SOOOO, except for that one bad experience... I never had a problem with reorgs...
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I'm getting flashbacks........must..not..read....
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It is now printed up and tacked to the office wall, which will likely get me in trouble.
My dad had it posted in his office and he was the division manager.
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Brew, glad to hear that your interviews out west went well. Let's hope that works out if the bailing parties will need to include you! This truly sounds like it sucks big time. At least you are keeping your sense of humor amid the madness.
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I am watching a re-org myself. Thank you.

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Based on the farewell notices posted internally, these morons have lost 1.5% of the staff in the past week.
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Based on the farewell notices posted internally, these morons have lost 1.5% of the staff in the past week.
And without any severance pay. The ones that leave usually are above average contributors. If this is your case, looks like there's going to be some serious workload redistribution coming up. The top performers better watch out
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And without any severance pay. The ones that leave usually are above average contributors. If this is your case, looks like there's going to be some serious workload redistribution coming up. The top performers better watch out
The people that have left over the past week are the cream of the crop, including someone who got an award given to one person in the entire organization each year that comes with a substantial cash prize. I hear through the grapevine that there are a whole bunch more who are readying their exit strut, too.
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Wow, that is incredible! How bad must it be for so many to bail at once? You surely have my sympathies and my hopes for your own "rooster strut" out the door soon.
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The people that have left over the past week are the cream of the crop . . .
Bah! They were QUITTERS! Malcontents who were probably subverting the organization anyway. The remaining group will be a solid group of team players willing to put themselves second in pursuit of organizational goals. Until they, too, get their resumes done.
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Bah! They were QUITTERS! Malcontents who were probably subverting the organization anyway. The remaining group will be a solid group of team players willing to put themselves second in pursuit of organizational goals. Until they, too, get their resumes done.
The spin being spun at the moment is that this is just pent up turnover, natural after a period of a poor labor market conditions that gives way to a better market. there is some truth to this, but knowing some of the bailouts suggests that this is not really the motivating factor.
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The spin being spun at the moment is that this is just pent up turnover, natural after a period of a poor labor market conditions that gives way to a better market. there is some truth to this, but knowing some of the bailouts suggests that this is not really the motivating factor.

There probably is some truth to that spin.... I just don't see everybody packing up and leaving without some other 'thing' happening... its not like you were being beaten every day and now it is up to three beatings a day...

I am sure that the reorg could have been handled better... but except for the raise issue is the working enviornment that toxic
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I am sure that the reorg could have been handled better... but except for the raise issue is the working enviornment that toxic
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