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Old 06-06-2011, 07:06 AM   #141
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Thursday I met the grand poohbah at a reception after an assembly intended to propound the "benefits" of this massive shtshow. Breathtaking cluelessness was displayed about how to manage and motivate people. I am tempted (heavily) to send an email to the grand poohbah with a few suggestions as I exit, but not sure if the risk is worth it.

Meanwhile, friends I would have labelled as "lifers" here are looking at the grass on the other side of the fence commenting on its appealing shade.
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Old 06-06-2011, 07:31 AM   #142
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I'd keep quiet at this point and "go west young man"

If they don't get it by now they never will.
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Old 06-06-2011, 07:39 AM   #143
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I'd keep quiet at this point and "go west young man"

If they don't get it by now they never will.
+1 You could safely talk about some of this stuff if the poobah asked your opinion but piping up on your own you could be taken wrong.
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Old 06-06-2011, 08:59 AM   #144
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+1 You could safely talk about some of this stuff if the poobah asked your opinion but piping up on your own you could be taken wrong.

+2 on the post.... at the age he is at... and at the position he is at... he probably thinks he knows more than you anyhow...


OR, he has heard it all before and just ignores it...


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I am tempted (heavily) to send an email to the grand poohbah with a few suggestions as I exit, but not sure if the risk is worth it.
You're absolutely right about the risk. Not worth it.

10 years from now this will all seem at least as stupid as it seems now, and you'll take comfort in knowing that you exited on the high road.
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Thursday I met the grand poohbah at a reception after an assembly intended to propound the "benefits" of this massive shtshow. Breathtaking cluelessness was displayed about how to manage and motivate people. I am tempted (heavily) to send an email to the grand poohbah with a few suggestions as I exit, but not sure if the risk is worth it.

Meanwhile, friends I would have labelled as "lifers" here are looking at the grass on the other side of the fence commenting on its appealing shade.
Send the email . . . but

Write in Word ... remember emails NEVER go away
Print the document
DO NOT save the document


You'll feel better.

Good Luck on your new position!

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Do not write or say what you are thinking. Just smile. Your departure will speak for itself. If someone asks you about the group turn the question back to them.

He is clueless or would not be able to implement necessary changes even if he understood the problems. It is sad, I feel for those who are hired to back-fill the departures.

Spend all your energy on you, not them. Enjoy Denver and don't look back.
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Do not write or say what you are thinking. Just smile. Your departure will speak for itself. If someone asks you about the group turn the question back to them.

He is clueless or would not be able to implement necessary changes even if he understood the problems. It is sad, I feel for those who are hired to back-fill the departures.

Spend all your energy on you, not them. Enjoy Denver and don't look back.
Agree completely. You can't enlighten those that are brain dead, but you can piss off the vindictive. Feel sad for the good ones left behind, forget those not worth remembering, and walk out the door with a big smile.
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Agree completely. You can't enlighten those that are brain dead, but you can piss off the vindictive. Feel sad for the good ones left behind, forget those not worth remembering, and walk out the door with a big smile.

Oh, yeah - watch out for the vindictive - and many times they aren't who you thought they were. Passive Aggressiveness tends to permeate their approach - ouch!

Good luck on the trip west and the new job - Denver sure isn't New York ;-) Enjoy - the west is wide open. Lots of space. I Love it.
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Don't risk it. Just look forward to the new job. The fact that you are leaving is a pretty big statement.

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You've enough material for a great book......if you don't send the email, someday, you can interview the guy, and all the other morons, and make a million!
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The only reason I seriously considered sending suggestions is that the poohbah told everyone in the group (hundreds of people) that she wanted at least one suggestion from everyone. Of course, now I find out that the suggestions are being forwarded back down the line to the little people to "research," complete with a deadline and a tracking spreadsheet (which must be a massive undertaing of itself). I imagine it is only a matter of time before at least one person is told to "research" their own suggestion.
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Well, since you already know the answer to your suggestion, don't bother. They don't get it and never will. Just move on and let them sit in their own poop.
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Now that I know what is being done with the suggestions, I have absolutely no inclination to send one.
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Hahahaha. My team and I have been commended to take part in an hour-long conference call that is solely intended to be used to plan the next call. I wish I were making this stuff up.
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Any sand piles need moving?
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Any sand piles need moving?
It would probably have to be done one grain at a time.
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Wait! Before you can start moving those sand grains, we need a plan to document the project. Pre-meeting begins in an hour.
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Hahahaha. My team and I have been commended to take part in an hour-long conference call that is solely intended to be used to plan the next call. I wish I were making this stuff up.
What? A conference call to plan a conference call?
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What? A conference call to plan a conference call?
Whoa whoa whoa, I'm with Michael, we need to slow down and have a couple in-house meetings to plan the agenda for this conference-call-planning conference call...

I hope you get to burn some vacation & personal time before you load up the Conestoga trailer and head west.
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