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Old 07-13-2005, 10:10 PM   #21
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Very true, Ha Ha ... it's been my experience that most doctors, hospitals, etc, expect that family is going to pick up the slack when it comes to taking care of the eldery. Not much of a safety net out there.

On the other hand, there's no guarantee that the kids are going to be bothered to look out for you. Or are going to live close enough to do so..
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Old 07-14-2005, 09:40 AM   #22
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I worry about this. Greg and I have no kids. Our neices and nephews are not trustworthy. We have some dear friends who have great kids we are close to. Little do they know that they might be watching out for us when we are old.

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It's funny, you never know who is going to look out for you. When my parents divorced, my Dad bought half a duplex and became chatty with the elderly lady who owned the other half. Long story short, she became quite ill and had no relatives. Dad (being an attorney) helped place her in long term care, took care of a lot of the paperwork, and visited her in the home until she passed on. It doesn't have to be blood that helps you out, just be sure to have a network and stay social. I wonder what the total introverts do, though....
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Old 07-14-2005, 12:43 PM   #24
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It doesn't have to be blood that helps you out, just be sure to have a network and stay social. I wonder what the total introverts do, though....
I kinda fall into that category. I am not a very social person.

I have been single most of my life and I do wonder who will look out for me when old age finally catches up with my "I can do it myself" lifestyle. Unless a miracle happens at this stage and I meet my soul mate who will outlive me (my father 94, outlived my mom and his 2nd wife), I'm on my own.

My father is lucky that he has me to look after him since my 2 other brothers who live near by don't seem to care enough to help out unless it's an emergency.
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Unless a miracle happens at this stage and I meet my soul mate who will outlive me.
Dear Abby time!

Forget this "soul mate" stuff. There are a lot of women out there. Many of whom want to get married. Pick one with characteristics that appeal to you (say, 10-years younger and extremely loyal). Love can come later.
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Old 07-14-2005, 12:59 PM   #26
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I wonder what the total introverts do, though....
You just shift from ordering pizza over the Internet to Meals on Wheels. *And eldercare services instead of housecleaners or yard workers. *

And maybe even hospice...

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Old 07-14-2005, 01:03 PM   #27
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Forget this "soul mate" stuff.* *There are a lot of women out there.* *Many of whom want to get married.* *Pick one with characteristics that appeal to you (say, 10-years younger and extremely loyal).* *Love can come later.
Here ya go, Wab. (Akaisha Kaderli has already done the research.)

Laurence, this may or may not work for you & spouse... but that didn't seem to be an issue with many other guys I've seen there.
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Here ya go, Wab. (Akaisha Kaderli has already done the research.)

Laurence, this may or may not work for you & spouse... but that didn't seem to be an issue with many other guys I've seen there.
WOW! Um....that was....informative! DW would of course shut that down.

If I was single I wouldn't be totally opposed to it, seriously, Thai chicks are hot I could learn a lot and lead a fuller life with someone of a different culture. But I would want to do a meet and greet where the women got to pick me, not the other way around. If she's being forced into it by her Dad, well, that's just barbaric. But if she wanted to see America and actually thought I was cute, well then!

Still, I think I would having a nagging feeling that she was just using me....
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...Still, I think I would having a nagging feeling that she was just using me....
Well that nagging feeling would most certainly depend on what she was using you for...
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Dear Abby time!

Forget this "soul mate" stuff.* *There are a lot of women out there.* *Many of whom want to get married.* *Pick one with characteristics that appeal to you (say, 10-years younger and extremely loyal).* *Love can come later.
Good advice. Still, for many men marriage would be a high price to pay for possible late life security. After all, one can always get drunk and fall down in a snow bank. But there is a strategy short of marriage or commitment. Women are on the whole sensible and believe in fair play. One can cultivate some interests that will put you in contact with women, and get to know them as friends. Especially if you are a bit handy or skilled in typically masculine useful arts, they will like this.* Of course this is hard if all you like is motor-crossing and paintball fighting.

They will frequently be trying to get you into bed, or to get you to be with them only, but if you are really not looking for that, good relationships can result. I have had more than one woman tell me that with age certain realism begins to enter their brains. If you can move some heavy furniture for them, escort them somewhere occasionally, dance with them, visit them in the hospital, send a birthday card, they get some of what they need, and you get a friend. Women don't really need us for friends, as they are very good friends to one another. But, inexplicably, they like us.*

I am married, but if I stay away from women who really turn me on, I can have good women friends and avoid divorce court. So Far.

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I am married, but if I stay away from women who really turn me on, I can have good women friends and avoid divorce court. So Far.
There are women who don't turn you on? Your tastes are more refined than I thought.

I'm not an expert, but women in general seem to be more loyal than men. And they know this. So, you have to consider the other side of the equation. In order to maintain loyal female companionship, the woman generally wants the same loyalty from the man. And marriage seems to be the key (such as it is).

But I like the idea of platonic voluntary servitude. (Hmm, another business plan begins to take form....)
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Good advice. Still, for many men marriage would be a high price to pay for possible late life security. After all, one can always get drunk and fall down in a snow bank. But there is a strategy short of marriage or commitment. Women are on the whole sensible and believe in fair play. One can cultivate some interests that will put you in contact with women, and get to know them as friends. Especially if you are a bit handy or skilled in typically masculine useful arts, they will like this.* Of course this is hard if all you like is motor-crossing and paintball fighting.

They will frequently be trying to get you into bed, or to get you to be with them only, but if you are really not looking for that, good relationships can result. I have had more than one woman tell me that with age certain realism begins to enter their brains. If you can move some heavy furniture for them, escort them somewhere occasionally, dance with them, visit them in the hospital, send a birthday card, they get some of what they need, and you get a friend. Women don't really need us for friends, as they are very good friends to one another. But, inexplicably, they like us.*

I am married, but if I stay away from women who really turn me on, I can have good women friends and avoid divorce court. So Far.

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You will still look, but a good nap will start to look better. Some of you
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If you live long enough there will be no women who "really turn you on".
You will still look, but a good nap will start to look better. Some of you
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John, I thought you were 62, not 620. :P

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John, I thought you were 62, not 620. :P

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Dear Abby time!

Forget this "soul mate" stuff. There are a lot of women out there. Many of whom want to get married. Pick one with characteristics that appeal to you (say, 10-years younger and extremely loyal). Love can come later.
Trust me, only a soul mate would lovingly put up with me, I am not looking for a "rent a bride" unless it's for a couple of months.

Thanks for the advice.
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John, I don't believe it. One of my life's long-term goals is to never behave as "old" as you do.

Besides, you can always nap afterwards...
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John, I don't believe it.* One of my life's long-term goals is to never behave as "old" as you do.

Besides, you can always nap afterwards...
Nords: Trust me, you're absoulutely correct in not believing old John, on this point.

As a matter of fact, "the turn-on factor" actually increases, as we usually become less discriminating.
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I have experienced this already, as now that I'm 30, I've noticed that some 40 year old women are hot!
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I have experienced this already, as now that I'm 30, I've noticed that some 40 year old women are hot!
Darn. It's the opposite for me, I notice them from legal to 30.
I'll probably die a frustrated old man unless I die in Thailand with my young "rent a bride" a la "Nelson Rockefeller".