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Old 07-16-2008, 11:37 PM   #21
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He's a jerk. Being a jerk, maybe he wasn't totally honest about the condition of the car, too. Maybe he wanted to dump the car fast on the first buyer who didn't spot the glaring deficiency in the car! Jerks will do that. Probably had Crisco in oilpan so she wouldn't smoke. Heck, maybe he's just a sociopath--I'll bet he was dumping carborundum in the crankcase just to make it tough for the guy who bought that darn lemon!

You got out of this deal just in time!
It's a big sea, you'll find another fun car. Maybe a Miata.
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Old 07-17-2008, 09:43 AM   #22
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Eh. I admit it is a big shame for Bimmer. I can understand the seller's point, though. First one in with cash in hand is better than the expectation via email that someone will buy. Now, if there was a deposit to hold the vehicle until everything was squared away (carfax, mechanic, final test drive), then that in my mind would prevent negotiating with another party. Without that, though, there are enough cases in the world where a potential buyer got cold feet at the last minute that I might well take the first offer myself. I am not sure the guy really was a jerk.
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What the! The guy sold it tonight. I had an appointment tomorrow morning to give it a final look over and had indicated I'd buy the car in email. Geez, you would think the guy would at least give me a call first.

I already ran a CARFAX, took the day off from work, set up the bank check, set up insurance, etc.
That's why you have to move FAST on private part deals, there is no "loyalty" on them............in most cases the first guy with cash wins.
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But Wyoming was gritting their teeth last month over us not buying American, so I assume they misspoke here and/or misremembered the car.
He only gets mad if you buy NEW BMWs, to him, a use one means the money stays in the good ole USA.............
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I don't know why, but I'm really !
Why? I don't think the seller is a jerk, private party transactions don't have the "rules" dealers have to follow...........
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Why? I don't think the seller is a jerk, private party transactions don't have the "rules" dealers have to follow...........
Dealers have "rules"? Tell me more FDude.....
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I was mainly selling small ticket items on craigslist so if the first person said they would show up at a certain time with the money then I'd give them first dibs and tell everyone else that called that I would let them know if was still available after that time (and the times were all either that day or the next morning). If someone wanted to show up to look at it, I told them that was fine but I was selling it to the first person that wanted it and had cash.

In a situation like this, I think Kronk has the right idea. If you've given some promise to pay pending a reasonable check-over, then you get the car. Otherwise, first one there with the pile o' bills wins. Unless he verbally gave some sort of promise that the car was yours, then he's a jerk... but still, what did you expect, he owns a BMW ;-)
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Oh, I can certainly see his point of view. He sent me an email saying he had to honor the owners instructions of selling to the first person who showed up with cash. Still, I guess I expected him to give me a call and say someone else was interested and ask if I wanted to give him a deposit. That's what I would have done, but different strokes for different folks.
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Oh, I can certainly see his point of view. He sent me an email saying he had to honor the owners instructions of selling to the first person who showed up with cash. Still, I guess I expected him to give me a call and say someone else was interested and ask if I wanted to give him a deposit. That's what I would have done, but different strokes for different folks.
So, he was selling it for someone else? That explains a lot............
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Dealers have "rules"? Tell me more FDude.....
I was being facetious. In private party transactions, there are no protocols to follow. If you went to a large dealership, and this happened, folks would take shear delight in telling EVERYONE they KNOW the dealership is bad, etc,...........it becomes a local PR disaster for the dealer.

Private party? No recourse, no PR disaster, etc...........

Not to nitpick, but Bimmer Bill did have a contingency on his sale ("if" the car checked out when I drove it one last time". The seller saw that as a way for Bimmer Bill to back out at the last minute. Adding the "which of course I beleive it will" is not an offer for sale............
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Old 07-17-2008, 12:28 PM   #31
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Does this mean that Bill needs to change his login name?
BimmerlessBill?
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I've been bimmerless since 2001 or so... sniff.
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I've been bimmerless since 2001 or so... sniff.
I just don't know about buying an older Bimmer. I drive one now, and I love it. That being said, I wouldn't buy one out of warranty. Even though I can work on it myself the parts are just so expensive.

If I was going to take $5K and buy something fun on 4 wheels I would buy a Miata.
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I'd get a funky fun car that nobody thinks about and is just cool. A Triumph Spitfire, an Opel GT, one of those little VW wagons.

Then, I'd get a really good set of jackstands and a comfortable creeper . . .

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Well, I'm 6'6" so most small, fun cars are out of the question. I just can't fit in them!
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Well, I'm 6'6" so most small, fun cars are out of the question. I just can't fit in them!
I'm half an inch shorter than you and I drive a Honda S2000 for fun, you just have to get creative with your ingress and egress.
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Looking for a fun car? Toyota MR2 Spyder owners refer to the driving experience as 'Permagrin'. Most owners, myself included, took one for a test drive and within a minute or two realized that they just have got to get one of these. The combination of mid-engine, light weight, quick steering and a responsive engine is unbeatable. The convertable top just adds to the grins per mile. Check out Spyderchat.com for the best online info, and don't even think about buying a 2000 or 2001 without checking the precats.
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Looking for a fun car? Toyota MR2 Spyder owners refer to the driving experience as 'Permagrin'. Most owners, myself included, took one for a test drive and within a minute or two realized that they just have got to get one of these. The combination of mid-engine, light weight, quick steering and a responsive engine is unbeatable. The convertable top just adds to the grins per mile. Check out Spyderchat.com for the best online info, and don't even think about buying a 2000 or 2001 without checking the precats.
Had a 1986 MR2 back in college. Was the most fun car I ever drove.
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An older model A-6 or A-8 is a gas to drive.
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I'm half an inch shorter than you and I drive a Honda S2000 for fun, you just have to get creative with your ingress and egress.
I'm 6-2 and bought a pair of aftermarket seats and gained about 2" of headroom =)

Still a $%#% to get in/out of but awesome 'airy' feeling above my head!
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