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03-18-2018, 05:04 PM
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#121
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 1,544
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I ran into a guy from my company at an offsite meeting the other day. We are about the same age. I think he is actually 2-3 years closer to 59.5 than I am. I mentioned retirement and he looked at me with a blank stare and eventually said "why?". Further into the conversation he mentioned his wife is a financial planner. I left it at that. Some people just don't.won't get it.
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" People say I'm lazy, dreaming my life away Well, they give me all kinds of advice designed to enlighten me When I tell them that I'm doing fine watching shadows on the wall "Don't you miss the big time, boy. You're no longer on the ball" -John Lennon-
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04-16-2018, 06:48 PM
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#122
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Twin Cities
Posts: 3,941
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On another string a few weeks ago, kcowan posted a quote by the actor Gary Oldman, “What other people think about me is none of my business.” I read that and the simple profundity of it stopped my in my tracks. I Googled it and it turns out a lot of people have said it. I can’t say I’ve attained it fully but it is an excellent dictum for an early retiree. I know that I have even close friends who have no concept of FIRE, so I’ve stopped mentioning it.
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04-16-2018, 07:19 PM
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#123
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 13,150
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Once you pull it off, their thinking will change from "Are you crazy?" to "Wish I can retire! " when they see how carefree you are.
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Have you ever seen a headstone with these words
"If only I had spent more time at work" ... from "Busy Man" sung by Billy Ray Cyrus
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04-17-2018, 02:44 PM
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#124
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Everett
Posts: 1,593
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04-18-2018, 06:37 AM
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#125
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: South central PA
Posts: 3,486
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Quote:
Originally Posted by O2Bfree
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Only if you’re looking for that. My first attempt at early retirement was met with universal envy.
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04-18-2018, 10:14 AM
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#126
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Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Northern Illinois
Posts: 16,602
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I have a class reunion coming up. I don’t want to deal with the retirement questions coming from that group. The friends and relatives questions have finally subsided after 4 years and now I have to endure another round.
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04-18-2018, 11:49 AM
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#127
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Recycles dryer sheets
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 100
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronstar
I have a class reunion coming up. I don’t want to deal with the retirement questions coming from that group. The friends and relatives questions have finally subsided after 4 years and now I have to endure another round.
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Perhaps don't go?
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04-18-2018, 12:17 PM
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#128
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Pacific latitude 20/49
Posts: 7,677
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AnonEMouse
Perhaps don't go?
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Or explain to them that "Independently wealthy" means no longer having to work for the man! Go in with a broad smile and enjoy it. Tell them that you do whatever you want every day.
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04-18-2018, 12:21 PM
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#129
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Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Northern Illinois
Posts: 16,602
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AnonEMouse
Perhaps don't go?
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That was my first thought, but then thought maybe I could deflect a lot of retirement talk by hanging with only retired people.
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Originally Posted by kcowan
Or explain to them that "Independently wealthy" means no longer having to work for the man! Go in with a broad smile and enjoy it. Tell them that you do whatever you want every day.
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I think I'll go with this when the subject comes up.
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04-18-2018, 12:24 PM
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#130
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Dryer sheet aficionado
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 42
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronstar
I have a class reunion coming up. I don’t want to deal with the retirement questions coming from that group...
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Recommend you assert your status and feelings [mod edit]
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04-18-2018, 12:29 PM
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#131
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 9,358
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One thing I have noticed is that if people say something like I have a condo in Florida or I like to play tennis, other people will rarely say something rude in response like I never want to live in Florida or I hate tennis - it is so boring. Yet some people have responded to finding our we were retired with I never want to retire or I'd be so bored I don't know what I'd do all day. Really, you don't know what you'd do without your one hour commute each way to your cubicle and exciting career as a mortgage loan processor? I actually never say that, but I always think that. I just assume the defensive answer means they couldn't retire if they wanted to.
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04-18-2018, 12:39 PM
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#132
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: The Great Wide Open
Posts: 3,804
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronstar
I have a class reunion coming up. I don’t want to deal with the retirement questions coming from that group. The friends and relatives questions have finally subsided after 4 years and now I have to endure another round.
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I thoroughly enjoyed my 40th reunion humbly telling anybody who asked what I was doing with my life. The cost of the reunion the ticket was $35 each, but the look on their faces was priceless!
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04-18-2018, 01:24 PM
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#133
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Tampa
Posts: 11,299
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Quote:
Originally Posted by daylatedollarshort
One thing I have noticed is that if people say something like I have a condo in Florida or I like to play tennis, other people will rarely say something rude in response like I never want to live in Florida or I hate tennis - it is so boring. Yet some people have responded to finding our we were retired with I never want to retire or I'd be so bored I don't know what I'd do all day. Really, you don't know what you'd do without your one hour commute each way to your cubicle and exciting career as a mortgage loan processor? I actually never say that, but I always think that. I just assume the defensive answer means they couldn't retire if they wanted to.
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+1
lots of jealousy out there with minimal years of planning. I always lived below my means even though not a classic "LBYM".
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04-20-2018, 10:33 AM
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#134
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 5,914
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I believe that this business about being concerned or worried about what others will think of you is vastly overrated. Far too much conformity and social pressure is not a good thing.
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04-20-2018, 10:40 AM
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#135
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Full time employment: Posting here.
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 792
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I already am dealing with a similar situation, even though I haven't retired yet, which is having become a widow at the young(?!?) age of 51. It's been over a year now, and I'm starting to get the first people brave enough to ask me what I am going to do with the rest of my life. (To which I have no answer, or at least not one that I'm telling any of them.)
So throwing ER into the mix is REALLY going to go over well! Especially because I'm sure people will think that in my grief I have made some ghastly terrible decision, when in fact DH and I would have been ER'ed by now if he hadn't gotten sick.
But having seen up close how quickly life can change, I really don't care what anyone thinks about how I am living mine. It's the only one I've got.
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04-20-2018, 10:44 AM
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#136
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Full time employment: Posting here.
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 717
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ER Eddie
I think most people just don't believe it can be done. They've gotten themselves too deep in debt, consumerism, lifestyle, and financial obligations. They can't possibly see themselves getting to the point of financial independence. So to them the idea seems "crazy."
Or else, they're just responding out of a sense that you're not behaving like a normal person behaves, like Robbie said. And so it seems nuts to them.
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Exactly. The old phrase comes to mind... "buying things they don't need with money they don't have to impress people they don't like..."
The concept of LBYM is lost on so many.
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04-21-2018, 11:49 AM
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#137
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Recycles dryer sheets
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Augusta
Posts: 348
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I wonder how many people here were motivated to retire because they had office jobs.
I work part time at home now and honestly, I could do this forever. I didn’t hate working, I hated sitting there and I hated the chain of command drunk with power nitwits in charge.
I know people that love working tho so clearly everyones experience is different.
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04-21-2018, 12:44 PM
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#138
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Dryer sheet aficionado
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Galt
Posts: 26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Yarnstormer
I wonder how many people here were motivated to retire because they had office jobs.
I work part time at home now and honestly, I could do this forever. I didn’t hate working, I hated sitting there and I hated the chain of command drunk with power nitwits in charge.
I know people that love working tho so clearly everyones experience is different.
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I can see you’re point of view. Working from home (without financial stress) is actually just my end goal. I love work. I just don’t want to do it on someone else’s terms for another 30 years. I’m a pipe welder making 180-200k a year with a company. I debated leaving, until I learned about FI and realized I could buckle down and save and invest for a few years and relieve myself of most financial burdens and truly just work for fun and my spending money. My end goal is to draw 50k a year from investments and make around 20k working for fun. We’ll see how it pans out!
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04-21-2018, 01:34 PM
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#139
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 6,181
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Yarnstormer
I wonder how many people here were motivated to retire because they had office jobs.
I work part time at home now and honestly, I could do this forever. I didn’t hate working, I hated sitting there and I hated the chain of command drunk with power nitwits in charge.
I know people that love working tho so clearly everyone's experience is different.
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For me, working from home the last 2 years increased my desired to retire. Not having a daily commute made a HUGE difference for my sanity. However, being home more made it easier to have more time with DW, have more with my current hobbies, develop new ones, easier to see local friends... and it became an issue of "how do I really want to spend my time?"
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04-21-2018, 01:56 PM
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#140
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 7,058
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I have worked p.t. from home the last 5 years and at 63 and have no intention of quitting. I teach an online college class that I can do anywhere with internet. It is great fun.
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