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Old 05-20-2005, 11:59 AM   #21
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Probably a bad card in one of the routers, a bad switch, or a bad cable somewhere.
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Old 05-20-2005, 12:01 PM   #22
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Ah crap, i'm pink now.

Well, might as well keep complaining...it cant get any worse now, can it?

Hey Jim, like Dory, you also missed the "shirley" routine.

Maybe thats just me, my wife and I do that to each other almost daily.

You just cant get good 'help' anymore...
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Old 05-20-2005, 12:27 PM   #23
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I went to the data center's support forum and found a dozen messages about slow response on lots of servers in the same data center (thousands of servers). Some referred to external stuff, as in
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I think theres a big ineternet problem right now.

I can't get to google, All (datacenter where e-r is) servers are 40% + packet loss. Servers on the west coast for me have major latency, and Packet loss as well.
The only known and predictable slow times on the server that e-r.org runs on are from 1am Central time and lasting 60-80 minutes or so, which is when backups are run, and for about 5 minutes starting at 4am Central time, when logs are closed compressed and new logs are started.

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Old 05-20-2005, 12:29 PM   #24
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I pull up about 15 pages all at once with firefox; this is the only one that stalls or doesnt come up, so I'm not thinking its some widespread "internet problem". I did hear about some "poisoned dns" hacking going on last week, so maybe we're unlucky enough to have been snagged by that and thats part of it.
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Re: Blank Pages and No Response Thread

It's the same for me. I fail at least once more often than not. On 2 occasions I tried on and off for over an hour; I just figured the site was down and gave up. Also, frequently after I sign in and hit the button to go ahead, I get a blank page. And it is just this site,; doesn't seem to be happening elsewhere.

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Old 05-20-2005, 12:51 PM   #26
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I pull up about 15 pages all at once with firefox; this is the only one that stalls or doesnt come up, so I'm not thinking its some widespread "internet problem".* I did hear about some "poisoned dns" hacking going on last week, so maybe we're unlucky enough to have been snagged by that and thats part of it.
No -- my last comment wasn't referring to blank pages, but to the very slow response last night, sometimes making sites inaccessible for several minutes at a time.

On the blank pages .. I read one comment elsewhere that on similarly configured servers, the first SQL query (after some period with no queries) would take a couple of seconds, while queries shortly after that would take just a few hundredths of a second.

Beyond that, I'm grasping at straws. Strangely, it never seems to hit me. I'd be interested in knowing if others using the same software have experienced the problem. I think BMJ has been trying to find out about that. *If not, then maybe switching to another server might be an idea. *(I'm sure BMJ has nothing better to do...)
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* * *Dory, on an unrelated & hypothetical topic, do you accept financial donations to maintain the board?* If so, what's an appropriate amount?* Roy Weitz over at FundAlarm suggests $18/year and several online magazines charge a few bucks a month.* And how do you prefer to receive the $$?* Again this is NOT a complaint or coercion or even a measly bribe...
I have a donation link on firecalc, on the results page. Over there, I suggest that the price of a beer or two is a suitable amount.

So sure - I'll accept a little help that way. But don't feel obligated in any way. .

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* -- fwiw, I received an email the other day asking if I would consider selling the site and forum. I declined. But if th You don't know me can't decide on a color, I might sell him off.
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BTW, here is a chart of the past 24 hours of traffic on one of the backbones serving the data center we use. They switch to other providers when these things happen, but that has got to make things slower there.

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No problem here.
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Ah crap, i'm pink now.

Well, might as well keep complaining...it cant get any worse now, can it?

Hey Jim, like Dory, you also missed the "shirley" routine.

Maybe thats just me, my wife and I do that to each other almost daily.

You just cant get good 'help' anymore...
I like my new color okay. DW just bought a lounge for the deck which is very close to my forner color (on this site). I hate it! As soon as
she goes back to work, it is going to disappear, at least temporarily.

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I wasn't able to bring up the board for extended periods last night (~6:30-7:30 PM HST)
Had the same problem at the same time as Nords. Running Firefox.

And, BTW, I just got a "Timed out while trying to contact early-retirement.org" message while trying to post this message...

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Ah crap, i'm pink now.

Well, might as well keep complaining...it cant get any worse now, can it?
thYou dont know me and JG have gone into stealth mode, as befits witness protection program participants.
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Had the same problem at the same time as Nords.* Running Firefox.

And, BTW, I just got a "Timed out while trying to contact early-retirement.org" message while trying to post this message...

REW, 7 (count 'em), 7 days to eR!!
The data center asks for one diagnostic that will perhaps help... if you have a problem getting to the site, run "tracert" in a command window and either post or PM the results.

Based on the anecdotal info so far, it seems that the problems correlate to distance from the server.

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thYou dont know me and JG have gone into stealth mode, as befits witness witless protection program participants.
Once again, edited for clarity and accuracy.

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Stealth mode?

How much do you think you can get for me?
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Dory, thanks for the full stealth mode new name color...

Shhh...I'm in disguise!
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th You dont know me,

Your stealth mode may actually revealing more information, rather than less. We now know you are white...

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Some parts of me are, some parts of me arent
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Some parts of me are, some parts of me arent
Don't tell me...you starred with Frank Gorshin on that famous "Black & White" episode of Star Trek?!? You are Lokai!!!!!

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There is a theory floating around the forum that supports the software we are running, suggesting that the feature that makes the forum more accessible to Google and other search engines also causes some other problems, possibly including the blank pages.

I am turning that feature off at least for a short while. Would those of you experiemcing the blank pages please let me know if you continue to see them over the next few days?

Thanks,

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