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Old 06-02-2007, 03:34 AM   #21
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I've tried in the past to gain less paternalistic moderation on this board. Our moderators apparently really believe they know better. They can censor while you can't even edit your own posts after a few minutes. You can ignore posters, but not their posts. If you push too hard, you'll get a nasty-gram from one or more of them. They are probably talking about you right now on their special moderator's board that you can't participate in.

Good luck.
I sure was able to get a huge defensive response with these 6 sentences. And I didn't even start the thread. Are some of you feeling guilty?

Well . . . as CT has said in the past, "Blow me".
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Old 06-02-2007, 09:36 AM   #22
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I sure was able to get a huge defensive response with these 6 sentences. And I didn't even start the thread. Are some of you feeling guilty?

Well . . . as CT has said in the past, "Blow me".
sgeeeee,

I can assure you that none of us are feeling the slightest bit of guilt. I am very proud to work with the team Dory put in place here. They are an exceptional group and very fair. We do our best to listen to both sides of the story and do a quality (and light) job of moderation.

Please read the post Dory made about participation here at E-R.org (link).
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Friends don't always agree on everything or even on most things. They can agree to disagree. When that happens, they might keep their discussions logical and free of name calling and so forth, or more often they just spend their time on other topics. They don't take every opportunity to express their disagreement, incite argument, insult each other, and fan flames. When they are incapable of avoiding this sort of thing, they become much more disruptive than welcome.
Please consider this a warning, if you cannot comply with the simple rules, you will be asked to leave.

As I mentioned before, there are many web hosts out there and you are welcome to start your own forum with the moderation style you see fit.
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Old 06-02-2007, 11:23 AM   #23
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Most of the time mods are just participating as civilians like everyone else, so I would hope their message won't be privileged by not allowing someone to block them like all the other civilians here.
The easy way is to have them register under 2 logins, 1 the normal login
they use when appending, the 2nd for the rare cases they actually do
some moderating.
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p.s. thanks for hint on removing pix, avatars, that helps.
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Old 06-02-2007, 11:30 AM   #24
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I should clarify some things here, so posters don't get the wrong impression.

Until this particular thread, to my knowledge, there has never been a time on this board when one of my posts was censored. Apparently, the rules for posting have changed recently, so when I quoted a past moderator on this thread, it was deleted. I'll give you a hint: the comment started with "Bl**" and ended with "me". Long time posters will remember a past moderator who used this simple post to end his participation in a thread that had exhausted him. It was funny, but maybe you had to be there.

I don't know about anyone else's internet experiences. I participate on 3 other finance/retirement boards and occasionally in a few others. Although I seem to run across a post with a "deleted by moderator" note on almost a weekly basis on this board, I have never encountered such a post on any other board I participate in. Although I regularly see posts on this board where a moderator bludgeons themselves into a thread to remind someone that they are the moderator and will be forced to take action if one of our posters doesn't behave, or inform someone that they are the moderator and they know their IP address, etc., I have never seen such a message on any other board. I served as moderator on an internet board a few years ago. It has since morphed into a new board and I passed the torch. I never posted on that board to remind anyone that I was the moderator at any time. I have served as host of an internet discussion board where there was never a post from a moderator. Neither the moderator nor the host position ever required much effort on my part. Occassionally we would get a spammer selling Viagra or porn sites and I would delete those.

It dismays me a little that so many posters on this board have had such a miserable experience on other internet sites. I guess I've led a sheltered internet experience. I am always surprised when one of our moderators goes into a long, defensive account of how thankless the job of moderating this board really is. I honestly don't understand that. There seems to me to be a couple of obvious solutions to that problem.

Some of you seem convinced that the current level of moderation on this board is required or the heathen Canadians led by their US leader, *****, will invade us and destroy our board. I don't believe that myself. I think the discussion board experience is improved with less moderation.

Please don't bother to remind me that this is a free country and I can leave and not come back if I don't like it. That is such a sad and petty response. You can say that about any experience to rationalize why no one should ever complain about anything. If that was the way people worked, 90% of the threads on this board would be ended before they started.

Dismayed but not annoyed.
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Please don't bother to remind me that this is a free country and I can leave and not come back if I don't like it. That is such a sad and petty response. You can say that about any experience to rationalize why no one should ever complain about anything. If that was the way people worked, 90% of the threads on this board would be ended before they started.
That child psychology won't work on me dude
Try this on for size

This is a free country and you can leave and not come back if you don't like it.

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I just wanted to let everyone know that post #21 was pull from this thread so that I could discuss the proper action to take with the team. I posted my response in #22 and merge the posts back into this thread.
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. . . This is a free country and you can leave and not come back if you don't like it.

So can you. So can we all. That will make a very interesting and diverse experience for all of us.

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Noted, Andy. This board is moderated the perfect amount. There is never any heavy handed effort to get anyone to conform to a specific opinion -- whether that be about investing, safe withdrawal rates, politics or board practice. Diversity is embraced by all on all subjects. Any more or any less moderation would be wrong and I just want to thank everyone for keeping this board safe. I hope this simple statement of fact will make everyone very happy and comfortable.
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Noted, Andy. This board is moderated the perfect amount. There is never any heavy handed effort to get anyone to conform to a specific opinion -- whether that be about investing, safe withdrawal rates, politics or board practice. Diversity is embraced by all on all subjects. Any more or any less moderation would be wrong and I just want to thank everyone for keeping this board safe. I hope this simple statement of fact will make everyone very happy and comfortable.
sgeeee,

As I mentioned twice in this thread, we have some very simple rules that we ask our members to follow (link). Your response is yet another instance of your inability to "let it go" and taking every opportunity to express your disagreement (albeit this time was in a sarcastic manner).

Enjoy the other forums, your account has been banned...

NOTE: Members, please take a moment to read this post. We try very hard to allow members as much leeway as possible to have open and civil discussions. FIRE is a goal for many members and a reality for others. Our mission here at E-R.org is to foster a friendly & positive environment to help each other reach our goals.

Please try your hardest to accommodate each other's opinions, if you do not agree, feel free say so, but do not continue to use ever opportunity to re table the topic. It's much more fun to move on and discuss something productive.

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