You know I've been kindly disciplined by the mods a couple times and quickly learned the rules. I am most grateful for them. I find this forum a haven of decency and good will because of the mods. I say this by way of comparison with another forum I frequent (on house issues, remodeling, decorating, etc) that has a way of devolving quickly into petulance, name calling, irritation, or worse. Thanks mods!