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Old 04-06-2012, 06:36 PM   #61
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I work 60+ hours per week and have not found a need to ignore anyone. What's the point. Back in the 70's I took an Evelyn Woods speed reading course and can breeze through this stuff like nothing.
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Old 04-06-2012, 07:07 PM   #62
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I could go on and on, but 'much ado about nothing.'

We all have to tune out people in real life, on television, in movies, on the radio, etc. - every day. It's not difficult to skip over doofi posts here. It's hard to believe every single post by any individual is intolerable, some may be, some might be worth reading.

With all due respect, hard to believe this is something worth all this fuss.



I was surprised to learn anyone would feel a need to ignore 20 active members! So I did a search and found, How many people do you ignore?. Summary:

# of members Ignored

ZERO1-56-1011-1516 or more
7821215

Not sure about the stats.... can you explain

I would think there are more than 100 or so members....
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Old 04-06-2012, 07:14 PM   #63
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Not sure about the stats.... can you explain
It is the results from a 2008 poll by the OP of the thread you are currently reading: How many people do you ignore?
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Old 04-06-2012, 07:52 PM   #64
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You ignore 20 people??!! It is good that I don't attend a cocktail party with people on this thread because I'd need psychotherapy afterward. I could ask a psychotherapist at the party, but he would probable ignore me.
I just checked...actually it's up to 30 now. But I will say that there are only a few who are actually regular posters. Maybe I have an itchy trigger finger (or good spidey-sense) with board noobs.

@Midpack...that's good food for thought. Thank you.

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A little less talk, and a lot more action.

#21 if not 1-19
Nope on both counts, FWIW.

I guess I'd like to shift the discussion a little. Most of this thread has been about whether and how much the ignore feature should be used, and about moderation issues in general.

I'm more curious about the following, and I'll phrase it in the form of an open and admittedly somewhat pointed question to anyone who wants to answer it:

Given that moderators on this board are unpaid, publicly identifiable servant leaders; and,

given that moderators can and do delete posts, edit posts, close threads, and can suspend and expel other posters but cannot ignore anyone; and,

given that the ignore function is written into the board software;

why is it that regular posters can ignore other regular posters posts but cannot ignore moderators' posts?

In other words, imagine a world where the board is exactly as it is today but clicking on the "Add X to ignore list" on a moderator's post would result in a "User X added to your ignore list / click here to return to where you were" instead of "User X is a moderator and can't be ignored". What would be the additional drawbacks to that imaginary world that don't already exist in the status quo?

(It's a sincere question, and I'm trying to be pointed while also being neither provocative nor antagonistic. I can understand that maybe this just isn't a big deal to anyone so it's not worth spending Andy's software development budget on something like this, but I don't yet understand any legitimate problem that my suggestion would create if the implementation was "free".)

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Nope on both counts, FWIW.

I'm more curious about the following, and I'll phrase it in the form of an open and admittedly somewhat pointed question to anyone who wants to answer it:

Given that moderators on this board are unpaid, publicly identifiable servant leaders; and,

given that moderators can and do delete posts, edit posts, close threads, and can suspend and expel other posters but cannot ignore anyone; and,

given that the ignore function is written into the board software;

why is it that regular posters can ignore other regular posters posts but cannot ignore moderators' posts?

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The reason is that good moderators while usually just regular forum participants, often can subtly rescue a thread that is headed into the dumper by redirecting the topic. If you pay attention you will see light hearted comments, subtle redirection of topics and deflections. This activity often averts real moderator actions (edits, deletions and more).

Occasionally it's appropriate to actually post a moderator message on a thread and you see these once and while as well - informing everyone subscribed to a thread of an issue and these posts usually begin: "moderator hat on" or similar. If you are ignoring the the moderator you can't see this.

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The reason is that good moderators while usually just regular forum participants, often can subtly rescue a thread that is headed into the dumper by redirecting the topic. If you pay attention you will see light hearted comments, subtle redirection of topics and deflections. This activity often averts real moderator actions (edits, deletions and more).

Occasionally it's appropriate to actually post a moderator message on a thread and you see these once and while as well - informing everyone subscribed to a thread of an issue and these posts usually begin: "moderator hat on" or similar. If you are ignoring the the moderator you can't see this.

Janet,

Ahh. That makes sense. Thank you for the explanation. I could half-heartedly argue that such "subtle rescue" posts could be sent as PMs to the intended audience, but I can imagine situations where there might be multiple posters in the intended audience which would make PMs a clunkier solution, so I guess what we have is a decent compromise solution.

To everyone else, for what it's worth I went and did some research on my massive ignore list of 30 individuals. In total those 30 individuals post about 11 posts per day to the board. A moment ago there were 18,496 board members and a total of 912,665 posts. So I am ignoring a very small part of the conversation here.

I have decided to remove all but the 8 most prolific posters from my ignore list, which will bring it down to a total of 7 posts per day to the board that I am ignoring. I'll see how it goes.

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Nope on both counts.

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I have exactly one person on my ignore list. I don't remember why. Maybe I was drunk-ignoring.
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To everyone else, for what it's worth I went and did some research on my massive ignore list of 30 individuals. In total those 30 individuals post about 11 posts per day to the board. A moment ago there were 18,496 board members and a total of 912,665 posts. So I am ignoring a very small part of the conversation here.
I have decided to remove all but the 8 most prolific posters from my ignore list, which will bring it down to a total of 7 posts per day to the board that I am ignoring. I'll see how it goes.
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I don't know how many of the 51 on my "Ignore Poster" list have been banned (or have just flounced off) but I find that it's very difficult to simply scan past the provocative statements that they make/made.

If I had to choose between "learning to manually ignore" and using a tech solution, I'd go for the tech solution every time. Even if I was able to teach myself to manually ignore a post, a slip of attention would make me grumpy. Many of those on my "Ignore Posters" got there from me thinking "Well, I'm not going to change their mind or their behavior, and I get tired of reading those comments again and again."

And while this board has improved my social skills, I see no reason to aspire to "Dalai Lama" class.
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I have never used the ignore button on a forum before. I do have one at work and have about half the people out there on it...
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I have never used the ignore button on a forum before.
vBulletin software allows the moderators to track how many posters have a member on their "Ignore Poster" list.

I suspect that every few months the "Top Ten Ignored Posters" list comes up for review. Or, if a poster starts causing problems and they're already a Top Ten member, that might be an extra strike against them.

So I see the "Ignore Poster" list as a way for members to provide feedback to the moderators on who we'd like to kick off the board. Vote early, vote often!
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I never knew it worked that way. That's interesting that you moderators get a list and monitor it. You just can't get away from Big Brother.

I still do not see why anyone would want to ignore anybody. Everybody has something to learn even from people you may not like. And a thread would lose some of it's charm or follow through if it's missing some conversations.

I think the secret top 10 bad boy list needs to be posted for all of us to see. Then we can vote on whether to send them to Redemption Island or out of the game. We would make alliances to protect ourselves and if a bad guy has an Immunity Idol he can't get voted out. I like Survivor. Hmmm...the ex-Mil tribe against the Civi Tribe? What about Challenges? Sidetracked again...
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vBulletin software allows the moderators to track how many posters have a member on their "Ignore Poster" list.

I suspect that every few months the "Top Ten Ignored Posters" list comes up for review. Or, if a poster starts causing problems and they're already a Top Ten member, that might be an extra strike against them.

So I see the "Ignore Poster" list as a way for members to provide feedback to the moderators on who we'd like to kick off the board. Vote early, vote often!
Rut-row. I've asked a few members to put me in their ignore list. Note to self: be nice when you post here...
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[mod hat]vBulletin probably allows a lot of things that some forums might use, but as far as the "most ignored list" here, it's pretty much on my personal virtual "ignore list" as a mod. Not much of a "big brother factor" going on there. I can't remember the last time I thought to look at it.[/mod hat]
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I never knew it worked that way. That's interesting that you moderators get a list and monitor it. You just can't get away from Big Brother.
I still do not see why anyone would want to ignore anybody. Everybody has something to learn even from people you may not like. And a thread would lose some of it's charm or follow through if it's missing some conversations.

I agree with your take on the ignore button. You can always learn something from anyone posting. Makes no difference whether or not you agree. There are many threads I don't pay attention to because they don't interest me but I have never ignored any members post because of who they are.
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I never knew it worked that way. That's interesting that you moderators get a list and monitor it. You just can't get away from Big Brother.

I still do not see why anyone would want to ignore anybody. Everybody has something to learn even from people you may not like. And a thread would lose some of it's charm or follow through if it's missing some conversations.

I think the secret top 10 bad boy list needs to be posted for all of us to see. Then we can vote on whether to send them to Redemption Island or out of the game. We would make alliances to protect ourselves and if a bad guy has an Immunity Idol he can't get voted out. I like Survivor. Hmmm...the ex-Mil tribe against the Civi Tribe? What about Challenges? Sidetracked again...
[mod hat on]Umm, it doesn't work that way. Maybe it did when Nords was a mod several years ago, and as I said above there probably are a lot of vBulletin features available but there just ain't no double secret list of most ignored posters being generated for this group of mods.[/mod hat off]
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[mod hat on]Umm, it doesn't work that way. Maybe it did when Nords was a mod several years ago, and as I said above there probably are a lot of vBulletin features available but there just ain't no double secret list of most ignored posters being generated for this group of mods.[/mod hat off]
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[modhat on]Having seen these posts, I went and looked up the ignored poster list. I haven't looked at it in quite a while. [modhat off]

Before I was a Mod I never used the ignore feature. Easy enough to scroll past posts I wasn't interested in - put a lot of miles on the old mouse scroll button at times.
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