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Old 07-02-2007, 06:35 PM   #21
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Old 07-02-2007, 06:39 PM   #22
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Speaking of, I think I should have a drink now. Is everyone else as stressed from the closed poll drama tonight? I need to learn to "know when to say when" in regards to closing polls on the FIRE Democracy. Hey, maybe it is a good idea, I could not image a smarter group of people to lead an online community but I suspect the partisan politics would be brutal.
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Old 07-02-2007, 08:23 PM   #24
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Speaking of, I think I should have a drink now. Is everyone else as stressed from the closed poll drama tonight? I need to learn to "know when to say when" in regards to closing polls on the FIRE Democracy. Hey, maybe it is a good idea, I could not image a smarter group of people to lead an online community but I suspect the partisan politics would be brutal.
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Old 07-02-2007, 09:57 PM   #26
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My idea is of course complex to implement, but...

I would like to see a merging of the 15 minute rule and the allow to edit forever. I think you should be allowed to edit for 15 minutes/30 minutes/2 hours/whatever with no record left of your edit, but I think you should be allowed to edit forever BUT your edit leaves a track.

Once your trackless edit window expires, your edits shows up in the thread with a warning that this post has been edited. Then if the reader chooses to, he can follow the edits down and see what was originally posted. (So if I'm reading a thread I can see that Joe posted a correction to his statement, and I don't need to see that what his original post was, because I know Joe, and I trust he isn't trying to cover something up, he is just fixing a typo, misspelling, nothing mallicious... but if John changes his post to "cover up", I can see what he originally said and know he is just trying to BS us.)

If somebody chooses to delete their post after the "hidden window", then in initial viewing of the thread the post shows up as:

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and a link that allows somebody to view the underlying post. Then if I know its John who deleted his post, I don't need to bother to dig deeper cause I know its just a BS post anyway.

I'd also allow "undeletes" as well, but that leaves a track as well:
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Post...
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Just my random thoughts.

Read this quick, maybe in 14 minutes I'll delete it, oh and sorry "John", didn't mean to pick on you.

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Old 07-03-2007, 07:10 AM   #28
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Old 07-03-2007, 07:12 AM   #29
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One prolific forum member deleted hundreds of his posts before huffing off. The result was threads that made little sense or had huge gaps in continuity.

Just for my own edification, which one of the prolific forum members that left in a huff are we talking about?
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So, um, did the "keepers of the flame" make a decision yet?
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Old 07-03-2007, 09:28 AM   #31
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Just for my own edification, which one of the prolific forum members that left in a huff are we talking about?
Although there have been several that might fit into this category, the example I was referring to was Ted.
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Old 07-03-2007, 09:40 AM   #32
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I didnt know he'd deleted any of his stuff.
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I could be wrong about Ted deleting posts. His departure took place almost 5 years ago and it's hard to keep the particulars of every huff-offer straight in my mind.
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Old 07-03-2007, 10:45 AM   #34
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I could be wrong about Ted deleting posts. His departure took place almost 5 years ago and it's hard to keep the particulars of every huff-offer straight in my mind.
Wow!!! We can't have more than 15 minutes to edit our posts because of what one guy may have done 5 years ago.

I'm starting to fear the mods here more than my mother.
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Old 07-03-2007, 10:50 AM   #35
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Old 07-03-2007, 11:32 AM   #36
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Wow!!! We can't have more than 15 minutes to edit our posts because of what one guy may have done 5 years ago.

I'm starting to fear the mods here more than my mother.
Some months ago I scraped up some of my droppings and put them on some blogs I was starting up and left links to the posts so people would come visit me. I thought they belonged to me and wanted to benefit from the effort I put forth the same that Andy was/is benefiting. Most of the links are active, but some of those blobgs were mistakes I soon found out and were jettisoned. However, I can't edit the links to point to the current blogs. I edited out some posts that revealed too much about my situation and I didn't want them available for privacy, security & legal reasons- lawyer's advice. So sue me, I've got 2 law firms I'm already writing checks to each month anyway. So there you have it. I don't feel I've ruined the forum by doing what I've done. My new approach to what I post here is to leave it and just copy up a version for one of the blogs, if I think it will travel. Yesterday, I also decided not to post as much here anymore and certainly nothing that requires any effort or talks about my personal life. I really don't care for the rules and restrictions I already have to deal with in my life and I don't want to deal with any here, especially with any AR types that don't get out of the house enough, that haven't had a good BM in a week.
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Although there have been several that might fit into this category, the example I was referring to was Ted.
Intersting that Ted was one of the most well informed and intelligent people who spent any significant time here.Ditto SG. Que esta pasando?
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I edited out some posts that revealed too much about my situation and I didn't want them available for privacy, security & legal reasons- lawyer's advice.... I don't feel I've ruined the forum by doing what I've done.... Yesterday, I also decided not to post as much here anymore and certainly nothing that requires any effort or talks about my personal life. I really don't care for the rules and restrictions I already have to deal with in my life and I don't want to deal with any here...
I'm starting to feel like you, Dantien. Everything I have written is my intellectual property as far as I'm concerned (worthless as it may be...). However, at this point I am unable to modify any of my 3,000 odd posts. Some of them I would like to get rid of since they are detritus or may, in hindsight, not have been in good taste. People change over time and I may not believe now what I said I believed in the past. Also, there might be personal information contained within my posts, that viewed as a whole, could be damaging.

Since my written word is apparently no longer 100% mine 15 minutes after I hit the "submit reply" button, I don't feel as compelled to submit my comments any more. If I ever do get pissed off enough to storm out of here, I feel it is my right to take what is mine with me. In the meantime, I'll probably stick around though, as long as the mood suits me.

However the cynical side of me knows that every word I write is going to enrich the corporate owner of this site, and that one of the main reasons for a prohibition on deleting old posts is to make the forum as large as possible to increase the ad views and google hits.
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As I posted in Sam's thread with the poll, the limit has been increased to 6 hours. I also gave some history in Sam's thread as to why we ended up with a time limit.

Justin, we all take some risk by posting here day in and day out about our lives and our opinions. What is done is done. We can't all just take it back. Don't worry so much. Our IP isn't that valuable and odds are only soon to be ex spouses would be interested in what we disclose here anyway.
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