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Old 07-28-2007, 10:08 AM   #1
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The two second delay...

...anyone else getting it?

You post, the thread re-displays, you hit <home> or <pageup> to get back to the 'new posts/usercp' menu bar...and about 2 seconds after you hit 'post' the screen refreshes and re-centers on your response....back at the bottom of the screen?

I think theres an option in here somewhere about 'show my reply' or something like that. Maybe I have that switched on and its causing a double-pump on the screen refresh.
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...anyone else getting it?

You post, the thread re-displays, you hit <home> or <pageup> to get back to the 'new posts/usercp' menu bar...and about 2 seconds after you hit 'post' the screen refreshes and re-centers on your response....back at the bottom of the screen?

I think theres an option in here somewhere about 'show my reply' or something like that. Maybe I have that switched on and its causing a double-pump on the screen refresh.
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Let's see...

Yes, it happens for me if I don't use the Quick Reply.

A lot of times a thread will refresh totally after about two seconds, even if I am not posting to it.
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Ok, I am testing via the quick reply. It is my understanding the quick reply does not cause a new page to load but adds your post to the thread using AJAX. After I post this I am going to hit page up and hold to see if the post page is pull back down to the latest post (I think that is what you are saying). After this post I am going to use the full reply.
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Testing via full reply....
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Testing via full reply....

On the last post via the quick reply the post was added to the thread without a page refresh (AJAX). I then hit page up but it did not take me back down to the last post.

From this post I am using the full reply which does not use AJAX. I believe it will post to the thread and then pull the page down to what is called a named anchor. In this case what the program is doing is posting the post and taking you back to the thread but automatically taking you to the last post anchor.

Here is more info on anchors from Wikipedia:
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Alternatively (and sometimes concurrently), the element becomes an anchor with the name attribute set, which preceded by a number sign ' # ', and appended to the URL, acts as a link target (a "document fragment"), typically causing a Web browser to scroll directly to that point of the page. Any element can be made into an anchor by using the id attribute,[5] so using <a name="foo"> is not necessary.
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I am thinking that maybe it is this scenario from the full reply that is being discussed here.

I'll post after this posts to see if I can recreate the issue.
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On looking at this thread, this is what happens...the thread displayed but it showed the bottom half of al's post, and yours. Then two seconds later, the screen 'bumped' up so only your post was showing.

When I'm posting, I hit "post reply" and the screen repaints, shows the thread with my post but part of the one above it as well, then 2 seconds later does the same thing...repaints and bumps so only my post is showing.

Its just a minor annoyance really, I hit post, then hit 'home' and go to click on 'new posts' or 'user cp' and before I can click on them, the screen bounces back to the bottom and shows my post again.

I guess I oughta just slow down a little
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When the full reply is posted it indeed does go back to the thread and to an anchor (see attachment). In the last post I scrolled to the top before the page had completely finished loading and when it finished it pull me back down to the last post. This is what the program is supposed to do, ie. take the person posting to the end of the discussions. I don't know which is better removing this feature and having people scroll down to see their post or leaving it as is and having to wait for the whole page to render before scroll up. Any suggestions?
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CFB, I think it's because the page is not fully rendered (ie parts are still loading at the bottom). It would be helpful if you could watch the status bar (bottom left) and see if it shows what is still loading. When the page is finished it will say done. Also, what browser are you using?

Another option would be using the Quick Reply box. That would be the most efficient (less page loads), can you try that and see if it helps?
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Firefox, latest version.

Probably the case, it just hasnt finished its rendering.

Seems like this is something pretty new...not sure if its related to the firefox update I got a few days back or if its the server running a little slow.
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Unless you need to attach files, advanced formatting or other features from the full reply it might be faster (and avoid this) using the Quick Reply.

Also, a little side note, E-R.org is not load balanced yet, I will set that up this next week. I expect to see more gains in the week to come. I plan to save up for a couple months for another beefy server to put into load balancing to make speeds even faster. This morning when the site was down the two that were on load balance worked as planned. It's ok with two server but I suspect that when one server has to carry all the load it will run at red line. So the goal with time is to spread this out and make things as fast as possible (thanks for your patience while I do this).
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You might try changing your thread view option to show the newest post first, at the top of the screen. It seems fix this.

You can make this change in your user CP:

> edit options then scroll down to thread display options.
> Choose linear, newest first.
Scroll down and hit save to keep these changes
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Les postes seront alors organisées pour lire par les sauvages
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Old 07-29-2007, 06:32 PM   #13
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Okay, from what I've been able to observe, it flips from 'transferring data' to 'waiting' and then theres the two second pause and then so fast I had to do it about 20 times before I made it out, something about google, then 'done'.
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I think that is the Google Analytics code (see attachment) that is at the bottom of the page. It must be waiting until that is called before the page "jumps" to the named anchor (most recent post).

I think Google has been a little slow lately. I was in the Webmaster Tools section yesterday and it was taking forever for them to verify some information that used to be almost instantaneous. I hope those new data centers are finished soon.

(side note, I think real estate investing in the towns where these new mega data centers are being build is brilliant, the start of re-ruralization).
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Okay, yep thats it because I just did it a bunch more times and saw 'analytics' in the millisecond flash before it went away.
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Les postes seront alors organisées pour lire par les sauvages
Sauvages ?
Il n'y pas aucun des sauvages ici.
Peut-être un autre forum ?
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Moi?

Vous avez assassiné ce un Janet...
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Sauvages ?
Il n'y pas aucun des sauvages ici.
Peut-être un autre forum ?
Attention, mes amis. Il y en a partout qui parlent francais. Moi, pour exemple, j'ai vécu en france pendant six mois et j'avais une fiancee francaise.

Et, si -- il y a bien des sauvages ici. .
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Mais mes amis, parlons-nous dans des langues modernes ou dans Baybayin?

Utiliserons-nous les mauvais traducteurs d'Internet qui produisent de doubles doubles négatifs ou se fondent sur ce que nos fiancées françaises ont chuchoté dans des nos oreilles?

Oh avancent, le didnt chacun ont-ils une fiancée française en même temps ou une autre?
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If this is what a 2 seconds delay does to you, maybe it is time to intervene.

I think the jump is caused by the "quick reply" box at the bottom.
Notice that after the jump, you can just see the top of the box awaiting your input.
Every time you open that box (arrows on right) it stays open for ever, but if you close it, it stays closed for the next posts and stops the annoying jump. So just close it and it will stop jumping.

I played with it when "go to new post" stopped working and also could not use the arrows to scroll.

Hope that helps,
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