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Old 05-12-2014, 02:59 PM   #141
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I signed up for 23andme back in January 2013. Both DW and I got kits, and grumbled mightily about all the spit we had to contribute, but we did it.

The health information was interesting, albeit not really useful.

But the genetic information has worked out to be worth every cent.

From time to time, they send me an email about new "family members" they have found for me. I look at the list, and if I see any that are marked as 4th cousin or closer, I send them an invitation to share genomes (not health info).

Most of the time, this has been useless, but recently I got a message from someone in this category, and after trading some info back and forth we discovered that we are third cousins. No big deal, but the kicker was that this opened up a branch of the family that had always been a brick wall for me. It turns out that she is descended from a sibling of my "dead end" ancestor, and now I have way more information -- exactly what I have wanted for years.

So, bottom line, spitting into a test tube can be way more useful than you might expect!
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Old 05-12-2014, 03:14 PM   #142
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SECOND UPDATE: I've been having a lively email correspondence with my newly-found second cousin in Germany. She sounds delightful. I'm planning on visiting her in September.

Connecting with her energized my sister, BIL and me to work on updating the family tree (created in 1939 by my grandfather for his father's 80th birthday). It's been absolutely fascinating to discover what can be found online today.

There are still a few branches of the family for which we have no new information. Perhaps I should follow braumeister's lead and start sending emails to everyone identified by 23andme as a 4th cousin and closer.

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Old 05-13-2014, 07:24 AM   #143
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the kicker was that this opened up a branch of the family that had always been a brick wall for me. It turns out that she is descended from a sibling of my "dead end" ancestor, and now I have way more information -- exactly what I have wanted for years.

So, bottom line, spitting into a test tube can be way more useful than you might expect!
I did 23 and me a while back, but have not taken the time to get any real value from it. That's probably because I don't know what cool stuff I could learn. Like you, the health stuff was just 'gee wiz' to me, but it didn't generate anything actionable.

I have linked up with some cousins I know, and one or two more distant cousins that contacted me. I hope I set 'the right' sharing settings!

How does a dead end ancestor manifest on the web site output? In other words, how would I recognize if I had one of those doors to open? Why did you want the info that you got by dicovering this new information? Is it just curiosity?
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Many years, ago, when my Mom was sick the Doctor advised us we could test against a similar illness. My Aunt and GodMother was in the room and she said absolutely not. Her reason was "all I would do is worry, I'd rather not know" Now, my Mother loved bread and butter, gravy on her potatoes, pies and cakes......and was fairly overweight.

Today, I've outlived my Mother, I'm heavy on salads, veggies, lean fish and chicken and never eat pies or cakes. I excercise, my mother didn't. What's my point? I do what it takes for a long life....I don't know if I'll have one but all testing would do is make me worry. I guess that if there was something very important that a new drug would help I'd test and take it. So far, my formula has worked....I feel great, know I'm aging but am healthy and credit my lifestyle for it.
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How does a dead end ancestor manifest on the web site output? In other words, how would I recognize if I had one of those doors to open? Why did you want the info that you got by dicovering this new information? Is it just curiosity?
I haven't spent any appreciable time on their website, so I'm the wrong person to ask about its capabilities. I've dabbled in my family's genealogy for many years, and I was always stuck on on particular branch (my mother's father ). All the other branches had some good information available through all the many sources I used, but not that one. I had family stories about him and his background, but could never find any documentation.

So when someone with both shared genetic information and also that same name in her family contacted me, it was easy to compare notes. She had a fair amount of documented information on that branch, so I learned a lot.

And yes, just curiosity.
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Just sent in my test kit. Wanting to know my percentage Neanderthal but not too interested in the health info but the raw data will be available to me.
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Just sent in my test kit. Wanting to know my percentage Neanderthal but not too interested in the health info but the raw data will be available to me.
The science is in: Europeans and Asians have a significant percentage of Neanderthal DNA, Africans don't. Will white supremacists have to start claiming Neanderthals were supermen?
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Just sent in my test kit. Wanting to know my percentage Neanderthal but not too interested in the health info but the raw data will be available to me.
That's the kind of thing I wanted to know. There was some evidence floating around in the family that I was substantially Native American. Debunked.

Found out I am even more Mediterranean than I thought I was even with all the light hair and eyes in the family.

Slightly more Neanderthal than regular humans which surprised me because I am not a naturally all muscled up guy, don't have a big hairy chest, and I listen to opera.
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Slightly more Neanderthal than regular humans which surprised me because I am not a naturally all muscled up guy, don't have a big hairy chest, and I listen to opera.
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Neanderthals sang opera, British archaeologist Steven Mithen, originator of the theory that music was used as a form of pre-linguistic communication by these pre-historic people, told EFE.
“The musicality of the Neanderthals can be identified more with opera than with rap because in addition to music, these hominids also used dance and body language as forms of communication,” said Mithen, author of “The Singing Neanderthals”.
“Rap is associated with a particular type of music based on words and phrases, something the Neanderthals lacked,” Mithen said.
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Slightly more Neanderthal than regular humans which surprised me because I am not a naturally all muscled up guy, don't have a big hairy chest, and I listen to opera.


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Neanderthals sang opera, British archaeologist Steven Mithen, originator of the theory that music was used as a form of pre-linguistic communication by these pre-historic people, told EFE.
“The musicality of the Neanderthals can be identified more with opera than with rap because in addition to music, these hominids also used dance and body language as forms of communication,” said Mithen, author of “The Singing Neanderthals”.
“Rap is associated with a particular type of music based on words and phrases, something the Neanderthals lacked,” Mithen said.



Interesting! So, maybe that why I listen to opera...?
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Neanderthals sang opera, British archaeologist Steven Mithen, originator of the theory that music was used as a form of pre-linguistic communication by these pre-historic people, told EFE.
“The musicality of the Neanderthals can be identified more with opera than with rap because in addition to music, these hominids also used dance and body language as forms of communication,” said Mithen, author of “The Singing Neanderthals”.
“Rap is associated with a particular type of music based on words and phrases, something the Neanderthals lacked,” Mithen said.



Interesting! So, maybe that why I listen to opera...?
Hmmm. I recall my dad suggesting Rock N Roll was Neanderthal. YMMV
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If music and the Neanderthal percentage are correlated, then maybe this song is appropriate for me:

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I heard of this site (23 and me) several years ago and a friend recommended it, but by the time I looked into it (I didn't really have the money at the time to pay a lot for it too) I thought they were no longer issuing health related information such as genetic predispositions or whatever it was that they had. They are still doing medical information then? I'm surprised.
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Eileen,

23andme.com still provides the you with the raw genetic disposition data. There are several companies who will gladly analyze that data for you. Promethease charges $5 and takes about 10 minutes.

How Promethease Is Keeping Direct-to-Consumer Genetics Alive | MIT Technology Review

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Old 08-12-2015, 11:50 PM   #155
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Eileen,

23andme.com still provides the you with the raw genetic disposition data. There are several companies who will gladly analyze that data for you. Promethease charges $5 and takes about 10 minutes.

How Promethease Is Keeping Direct-to-Consumer Genetics Alive | MIT Technology Review

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+1. Don't think it is as good as the original 23andme translation of results, but way way better than the raw 23andme results.
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If you are looking at/for specific markers because of genetic concerns I found SNPedia.com to be useful. If you figure out the specific marker (rsxxxxx) then you can look it up on SNPedia, and while logged onto 23andMe, click on the link on the right side of the SNPedia page for that marker.... It takes you to the 23 and me raw data results.

With 23andMe I was able to reassure myself about cancer markers (I'm clean, despite having 3 of my 4 immediate family members die of cancer.) I was able to see that my family has issues with the MTHFR gene - and added bio-available b vitamins to help with that. And was able to rule out a couple of other concerns.

My husband and I had our tests done before the FDA clamped down on the medical data - my kids had the tests after the fact - but I've been able (with some work) extract the exact same data.
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Thanks for that info Rodi. I am waiting on my results because I strongly suspect I have the mthfr gene.
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I decided I didn't care about the health info so sent my kit into Ancestry.com about 3 weeks ago. They said it would take 6 to 8 weeks to get the results.
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I haven't thought about doing the genetic test, but my doctor did the health genetic test on me this year. She went to being a concierge doctor last year and it was one of the perks of the service. After having a mom who died from Alzheimer's, I was pleased to find out that I have the lowest combination of gene type for predisposition towards the disease. Not to say its a guarantee that I wouldn't get it, but my chances are lower than I thought, which is a relief.


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If you didn't get in early enough to get past the absurd restriction that the FDA put in place, you can upload your raw data to genetic genie. I did it. It was easy and free. I just re-googled it and found this: https://bekahsfeast.wordpress.com/20...e-dna-results/
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