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Old 10-17-2007, 09:32 AM   #1
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Acupuncture?

I've been dealing with low back issues for over a year. Have gotten some relief through chiropractic and physical therapy but am not there yet.

Just curious if anyone's tried acupuncture and what the results were. Any thoughts appreciated!
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Old 10-17-2007, 09:40 AM   #2
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Had serious lower back injury that did not respond to traditional treatment. Found a great acupuncturist who was able to completely cure the condition in about 5 sessions. He also cured, during the same treatment sessions, a recurring ailment that I had brought home from living in the tropics and had suffered from for several years. Had no success with treating a later shoulder injury though.
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Old 10-17-2007, 10:39 AM   #3
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DW has chronic back related issue. In physical therapy for a few years. Tried acupuncture twice, didn't seem to help, however, she also couldn't deal with the needles going into her feet.
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Old 10-17-2007, 12:40 PM   #4
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bots,

I had major back surgery 42 years ago and have been through every kind of treatment including physical therapy, chiropractic, trigger point injections, etc, etc. I have also been through every anti-inflammatory drug and almost every type of narcotic pain medication as well as periodic steroids.

About 4 years ago my family doctor recommended a Chinese acupuncturist that he had personally used. Her treatments don't cure the underlying problems but they do give me at least as much pain relief as any of the drugs. Even after we moved out of state two years ago I have continued to make a 100 mile round trip to get treatments from her every two weeks. I briefly tried a local acupuncturist but her treatments were ineffective.

You certainly have nothing to lose by giving acupuncture a try. Let us know how it goes.

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Old 10-17-2007, 04:31 PM   #5
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I had tried an acupuncturist for my lower back pain about 20 years ago when I had 1st developed the pain. I had tried anti-inflammatory drugs and pain relievers and neither really helped. The acupuncture did not seem to work either (10 sessions, some with electrical pulsing). I then tried a chiropractor and it felt better for about 2 hours after each sessions.
Fast forward 20 years and I developed a severe pain from poor exercise habits and general slothiness (is that a word?). I tried epidural cortisone injections (3... that did not help) and then physical therapy (started out as 6 weeks and ended up taking 14 weeks). The physical therapy started working, but very slowly (stretching of tendons and nerves that had atrophied, ab back and glut muscle exercises). I kept up with the exercises at home and long walks (1 1/2 miles or so) every other day and am now about 95% of normal (whatever that is). I am sure that some of my aches and pains are from being 56 years old.
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I had some lower back pain and tried accupuncture here in Chiang Mai. I felt relief and was quite grateful. When I went in for consultation we discussed several issues and she worked on all of them.

I took her herbal therapy (to open up the chi lines) and I also did exercises, and rest. I still do the exercises daily.

Hope you find what you need from a good accupuncturist - or whatever works for you.

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Last year had severe pain in my back, shoulders, arms and legs...couldn't lay down thought about having the wife throw me in the back of the car and take me to an acupunturist, but discovered Phiten and started wearing neck, wrist and ankle bands - within a few hours pain was gone - don't know how they work but they do for me - a cheap solution too - I would have paid 10s of thousands to make the pain go away! Phiten

It also is a good alternative to Viagra
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We are currently in the Philippines and could not get too much info on the Phiten site you listed.. Titanium necklaces? how does that work?

Out of curiosity, what is anyone paying for an accupuncturist session? Is it covered by insurance or considered 'alternative' and therefore extra?

In Chiang Mai, my consultation was 300 baht, the sessions were 500 baht each, and the 15 days of herbal pills were also 300 baht.

Thanks for any info.

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Billy -This site has a little explanation - the titanium seems to have a beneficial effect on the "bio-electric current" in the body.

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Billy -This site has a little explanation - the titanium seems to have a beneficial effect on the "bio-electric current" in the body.

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I've noticed a number of pro athletes are wearing these necklaces and wondered what they were. Thanks for the info!
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Out of curiosity, what is anyone paying for an accupuncturist session? Is it covered by insurance or considered 'alternative' and therefore extra?

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My acupuncturist charges me $55 per session. Each session usually includes acupuncture with electrical stimulation, a deep tissue massage, and sometimes cupping. I paid out of pocket for the first three years but this year she was approved as a preferred provider by the local BCBS program. Now they pay all but $6. They will pay for 24 treatments a year so I go every two weeks.

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don't know if anyone noticed during the red sox - indians game tonight that there were more Phiten necklaces than you could shake a stick at.... red sox had on more so that probably explains the outcome...Becket had on one and that little rookie Pedroia had on two!...maybe that explains his 5 rbis.....I was reading that since ballplayers try to get an extra edge and that they can't use growth hormone and steroids they are using Phiten necklaces instead!.... Red Sox Phiten
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don't know if anyone noticed during the red sox - indians game tonight that there were more Phiten necklaces than you could shake a stick at.... red sox had on more so that probably explains the outcome...Becket had on one and that little rookie Pedroia had on two!...maybe that explains his 5 rbis.....I was reading that since ballplayers try to get an extra edge and that they can't use growth hormone and steroids they are using Phiten necklaces instead!.... Red Sox Phiten
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Sheesh...

Maybe it's just me, but I try to avoid any "treatment" that includes the word "puncture"...
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My acupuncturist charges me $55 per session. Each session usually includes acupuncture with electrical stimulation, a deep tissue massage, and sometimes cupping. I paid out of pocket for the first three years but this year she was approved as a preferred provider by the local BCBS program. Now they pay all but $6. They will pay for 24 treatments a year so I go every two weeks.
Thanks, Grumpy. Those are pretty good prices, even without the insurance. Happy that they pay for it now.

The accupuncture treatments I had also included the electric stimulation on the chi lines as well.

RE: the phiten and ionic treatments -- I have been doing ion foot spa treatments -- does anyone know anything more about these? I noticed a difference right away.

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Hmmm....recently developed severe pain in the left shoulder that radiates down my left arm and leaves my index and middle finger with tingling and numbness. Went for a massage and the therapist had the doctor take a look at me (homopathic). He said my C3 disc was bulging. He could treat with acupunture and other treatments or I could see a chiropractor. I've made two visits to a chiropractor - he said it is actually C4 & C5 with some other complications . I've had two treatments this week - feels a little better, but still some pain and numbness. It bothers me most while at work sitting in front of my computer. I figure I'll give the chiropractor a couple more visits and then seek other treatment if necessary. Don't want to go to my MD and be put on muscle relaxers or get Cortisone shots. Any other suggestions?
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I'm not a doctor, Dog, but from personal experience, sitting in front of the computer for lengths of time can really put a crimp into our postures. That 'unnatural' posture causes pain in various places like down the arms, numb fingers, a neck ache, lower back aches, etc.

Get up and move around after 15 or 20 minutes. Do some kind of yogic stretches to open up your vertabrae. Even though I find this 'interruption' to be somewhat of an aggravation, for me, it's better than the pain...

Best of luck, hope that helps.

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