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Alcohol and Women Study -- Men Too?
03-01-2009, 02:52 PM
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Alcohol and Women Study -- Men Too?
You may have seen this recently reported study:
More evidence links alcohol, cancer in women - Cancer- msnbc.com
which showed that women who drank more had more incidence of cancer.
The news media are reporting it as "here's important news for women" but I suspect the results are just as important for men.
We don't know that the extra alcohol caused the cancers (that is, it may be that the lifestyles of drinkers include something else that puts them at higher risk), but for someone who drinks more alcohol than he otherwise would because of its health benefits, it may be relevant.
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03-01-2009, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by TromboneAl
We don't know that the extra alcohol caused the cancers (that is, it may be that the lifestyles of drinkers include something else that puts them at higher risk), but for someone who drinks more alcohol than he otherwise would because of its health benefits, it may be relevant.
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FWIW, this appears to be what's called a case-control study. As far as study methods go, this is considered to be the weakest in terms of accuracy for lots of reasons, and is usually best considered as an interesting hypothesis generator. Many end up getting disregarded when more rigorous studies are done in follow-up.
I would advise anyone who drinks more than 2 drinks a day (maybe 3 for men) that there may be some increased risk of cancer, etc. that gradually increases with amount they drink. Beneath that level of alcohol intake, it is hard to see any increased risk in patients without predisposing conditions including recovering alcoholism, liver issues, gastritis, etc.
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03-01-2009, 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Rich_in_Tampa
FWIW, this appears to be what's called a case-control study. As far as study methods go, this is considered to be the weakest in terms of accuracy for lots of reasons, and is usually best considered as an interesting hypothesis generator. Many end up getting disregarded when more rigorous studies are done in follow-up.
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So Rich, how about a double blind, randomized controlled trial? Could we get consent from Forum members? NIH funding?
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03-01-2009, 03:45 PM
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So Rich, how about a double blind, randomized controlled trial? Could we get consent from Forum members? NIH funding?
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Great idea. You buyin'? 
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03-01-2009, 03:55 PM
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Only if I can be in the intervention group.... 
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03-01-2009, 07:02 PM
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how about a double blind, randomized controlled trial?
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But you might be in the group that gets non-alcoholic beer and grape juice. For 17 years.
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Women and alcohol are a dangerous combination...
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Alcohol and Women Study: What - we get to study women? And we get to study alcohol too? Sign me up!
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03-01-2009, 08:06 PM
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I prefer not to study women, but I'll have a JD on the rocks....
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Alcohol and Women Study: What - we get to study women? And we get to study alcohol too? Sign me up!
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Maybe we could get a federal grant to study the effects of alcohol on women? Wow, what a great job that would be!
I have to take this opportunity to say that I was for one day a professional drunk. The county wanted drunks for the academy class to practice DWI testing on, so a bunch of us were picked up at home, driven to the academy, fed snacks and the booze of our choice, given DWI testing by the recruits (I passed with flying colors) and then driven home. There I was, 3:00 in the afternoon, puking my guts out in the backyard. 
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03-02-2009, 08:47 AM
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I have to take this opportunity to say that I was for one day a professional drunk. The county wanted drunks for the academy class to practice DWI testing on, so a bunch of us were picked up at home, driven to the academy, fed snacks and the booze of our choice, given DWI testing by the recruits (I passed with flying colors) and then driven home. There I was, 3:00 in the afternoon, puking my guts out in the backyard.
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Good gawd Walt, how much did you drink?  When I did it, I was only allowed 3 beers and one mixed drink..... 
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