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There's some new information - at least new to me!
Once again, only time will tell if an ACA "subsidized plan" = medicaid plan.
all insurances NOT in ACA subsidized plans
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Once again, only time will tell if an ACA "subsidized plan" = medicaid plan.
i have come to believe since the IRS seems to be the collector / payer payer of the aca subsidies/credits seem to be the same.
I did not say subsidized plans were medicaid. I said they used medicaid networks and provider payments
pb4uski
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I have seen nothing that suggests this other than posts by gerrym51, so I'm skeptical.
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One other thing I should have added. While the 2014 provisional subsidies are typically based on 2012 tax return data, there might be some sort of mechanism to have the 2014 provisional subsidies be based on something other than 2012 tax return data where the applicant has or expects a significant change in income for 2014 compared to 2012, but there isn't much solid on this at this point other than a question in the 2014 application for insurance. I'm guessing that it might operate similar to financial aid where it is generally based on tax return information but there is flexibility to get an adjustment based on changes in circumstances.
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Looks to me to be a distinction without a difference.
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That will teach Ms. Saver to save....
But there are a lot of things not fair in our system... but I agree that income is the best determination for subsidy for now...
Boy- you guys are clobbering me.
I have to be more specific.
insurance providers under ACA will compete for our(your) business.
the plans are differentiated by bronze,silver,gold,platinum. that is the percnentage of costs paid 40,30,20,10.
so whats a plan to do.
i can't speak for all states but in mass the traditional managed medicaid providers offer the cheapest plans-because they already are the cheapest providers.
most states already have managed medicaid provider plans that are run by the cheapest providers.
regular big name plans that are not into managed medicaid plans can't compete on price.
so they compete on larger provider networks.and they don't make bids on non-subsidized plans
I have to be more specific.
insurance providers under ACA will compete for our(your) business.
the plans are differentiated by bronze,silver,gold,platinum. that is the percnentage of costs paid 40,30,20,10.
so whats a plan to do.
i can't speak for all states but in mass the traditional managed medicaid providers offer the cheapest plans-because they already are the cheapest providers.
most states already have managed medicaid provider plans that are run by the cheapest providers.
regular big name plans that are not into managed medicaid plans can't compete on price.
so they compete on larger provider networks.and they don't make bids on non-subsidized plans
credits/ subsidies based on 2nd lowest silver plan
lowest to highest silver insurance plans
1. medicaid managed providerA
2.mangaed medicaid provider b
3.managed mediciad provider c
4.manged medicaid provider d
5. managed medicaid provider e
6. Big name provider A
7. big name provider B
8. big name provider c
9. big name provider d
10 big name provider e.
the biggest name providers can't compete on price so they either don't offer plan or eventually pull out because most of the buyers went o lower priced.
if manageded medicaid provider 2 is the basis of silver price and big name provider d is 300 more a month-you see what happens
you will only be subsidized based on 2
lowest to highest silver insurance plans
1. medicaid managed providerA
2.mangaed medicaid provider b
3.managed mediciad provider c
4.manged medicaid provider d
5. managed medicaid provider e
6. Big name provider A
7. big name provider B
8. big name provider c
9. big name provider d
10 big name provider e.
the biggest name providers can't compete on price so they either don't offer plan or eventually pull out because most of the buyers went o lower priced.
if manageded medicaid provider 2 is the basis of silver price and big name provider d is 300 more a month-you see what happens
you will only be subsidized based on 2
REWahoo
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Being more specific will help, but links to provide third party confirmation of your beliefs and opinions would be better than a Kevlar vest...
what are you talking about. the subsidy/tax credit is determined by the price of the second lowest silver plan. you can easily google that.
I have never been able to do links
in mass. although it is somwhat different as been pointed out to me-the private companies that manage medicaid are always the lowest providers in the connectors private pay plans.
the bigger name insurers are always higher
ps actually is there an easy way to do links-i have never figured it out
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If you are unable or unwilling to provide support for your opinions and beliefs, perhaps you should reconsider before posting.
I'm done here.
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1. Go to the page you want to link and highlight the webpage address
2. Press Ctrl and C at the same time to copy the address
3. Go to the ER.org message that you want the link in and put the cursor where you want the link to appear
4. Press Ctrl and P at the same time to paste the address in the message
When you write a post, highlight the portion of the text you'd like to make into a link (say, the article title that you just typed). The, look at the top of the screen and you'll see an icon that looks like a globe with a chain link. Click on that ans a small screen will appear. Inside that screen, paste in the URL of the site you are linking to (it's easiest if you keep that screen open as you are working on the post). The URL is usually shown in the window at the top of the screen when you are at the "target" site, and will start with "www" or "http:"). One "gotcha"--take off any final " / " that might be on the URL after you paste it into the little window. Then close the window and the link will be in blue in your post.
It is easy. Providing a link allows users to see and confirm what you are talking about. Also, using capitals and punctuation is a courtesy to those who read these posts.
this,
http://www.kff.org/healthreform/upload/7962-02.pdf
it worked . yoo hoo. this is how its based on second lowest silver plan
now that i know how to do it i will endevour to provide linkes REWHO
http://www.kff.org/healthreform/upload/7962-02.pdf
it worked . yoo hoo. this is how its based on second lowest silver plan
now that i know how to do it i will endevour to provide linkes REWHO
this is link to mass connector subsidized plans.
all these plans are/and started as private medicaid providers before the Romneycare was made.
https://www.mahealthconnector.org/p...x.portlet.endCacheTok=com.vignette.cachetoken
all these plans are/and started as private medicaid providers before the Romneycare was made.
https://www.mahealthconnector.org/p...x.portlet.endCacheTok=com.vignette.cachetoken
pb4uski
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Rut-roh. I think we just created a link monster. 
Chuckanut
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Yes, there is plenty of unfairness in our system - parts of the tax code come to mind. Still I would hate to see Ms. Saver be deprived of the fruits of her labor, or feel that she must reduce her spending level (and quality of life) to get some medical subsidy. She can't take it with her - a lesson that Mr. Spender learned all to well.
compare this
https://www.mahealthconnector.org/p... Plan Information/HealthBenefitsAndCopays.pdf
with this
http://www.coveredca.com/media/10745/CoveredCA_HealthPlanBenefitsSummary.pdf
look familiar.
mass subsidized plan chart california subsidized plan chart. see any bronze,silver gold,platinum mumbo jumbo
https://www.mahealthconnector.org/p... Plan Information/HealthBenefitsAndCopays.pdf
with this
http://www.coveredca.com/media/10745/CoveredCA_HealthPlanBenefitsSummary.pdf
look familiar.
mass subsidized plan chart california subsidized plan chart. see any bronze,silver gold,platinum mumbo jumbo
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Gerry, not picking on you, but we do prefer linked articles to have summaries or snippets provided. Naked links, as defined in the community rules (here)
It is a courtesy to our fellow members to post enough information so they don't have to open the link to know what it is about.
oh god. i just learned how to do links-how do i do that
Well, a summary you write yourself. A snippet you copy from the linked article and paste it here. Do you know how to copy and paste?i can't win i started linking because rewho said i offered no proof of things
Sure you can.
Lots of us are looking for answers, want to know what is going to happen, and how to plan. I have to get my insurance from the Florida exchange - no other option. So it's important to know what has already been announced as part of the program, what someone thinks might happen, and what is just journalism. We are just trying to separate fact from opinion, so we can plan with the facts.
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