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Old 02-15-2008, 06:46 PM   #21
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I used to have back pain. It would go out 3 or 4 times a year, the last time it was difficult getting out of bed, I literally had to crawl to the bathroom. (Thats when you know you have a keeper for a spouse.) I took a week off work, my Doctor gave me some pain medicine and told me the best thing would be to keep using my back. I agreed, pain meds are not the long term answer. I decided to strenghen my abs and started doing leg lifts. I put my hands under butt, keep lower back straight and lift my legs up 90 degrees. I started with 5 a day and worked up to 30 a day. Usually after 5 or 10 I can feel my lower spine pop as my legs come all the way up, it seems to decompress it and allow the disk to move back in. I thought sit ups or crunchs would help but they didn't, they seems to compress the vertibre and encourage the pain. So here I am after 6 years with no more episodes, I still get sore occasionally but its quite minor and after the excerise it goes away. This has been a lifesaver for me.
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Old 02-15-2008, 08:41 PM   #22
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I did a number on my back when I was younger, and still have problems with it if I'm not careful. I've learned I can't twist my torso left and pick something up -- not even a small thing -- without causing searing back pain, so I'm careful to avoid that. And I've found it's easy to wear my back out; when that happens I turn to Advil.

More importantly I've learned that I can avoid most "bad back days" if I care for my back (and other joints) by doing fifteen minutes of whole-body stretches and flexibility exercises each morning and strength training at least once a week. (Or much more often during the Winter when I don't get out as much for hiking, biking, and other activities.)

And it's a funny thing. When I let those things slip by skipping too many workouts or sacrificing the morning stretches to the daily pressure of getting up and out the door on time, the back discomfort just sort of slowly creeps up on me until I finally realize I'm uncomfortable much of the time. Then it's back to stretching and gradually working my way back up on the fitness scale, and the pain mostly goes away.
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Old 02-16-2008, 04:13 AM   #23
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I just finished slathering my back with Active-On right before reading your thread. I injured my back last year lifting a patient. It's the gift that keeps giving

I don't like taking oral anti-inflammatories because I am into weight lifting and have read a research article lately stating that anti-inflammatories interfere with muscle hypertrophy.

I love this stuff; maybe you should consider a topical analgesic, along with heat therapy and massage (I have a large massager we call "the thumper"), it helps to decrease the spasm pain.
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Old 02-16-2008, 07:36 AM   #24
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Yes, I may try that, but then it would be one more thing to schlep around to gigs.

I've been fine for years, but it now it is above that threshold causing that vicious cycle that Lazy described, so even if my posture were perfect, it would probably happen. It takes a lot of the fun out of gigs.
Sitting on the thing as I type. I schlepped this on my 14 hour airplane trip here and glad I did. I also have a 'first class sleeper' (google it). It allows me to sit in the cattle car section and still be able to walk.

Buy one and schlep it ... you'll be glad you did.
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Old 02-16-2008, 07:48 AM   #25
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You see more concerned about the results of taking Advil then the cause of your back pain. Have you been to see a neurologist or orthopedist about your back? The pain you describe sounds like what I went through because of Sciatica which I had to have surgery for.
Yes I am more concerned about the Advil at this time. My pain comes mainly from the last 5 years of sitting in my home office (with the occasional business trip for a meeting or conference) 10 to 12 hours a day, getting ZERO exercise (consisted mainly of walking to the end of the driveway to get the newspaper and to the mailbox (by the front door)). My stomach and back muscles atrophed and my leg nerves and tendons did too. On a side note, I have a congenital spinal stenosis. I went to an orthopedic surgeon, did x-rays, MRIs, ...etc. He said no operating, I'm too young and the narrowing should not be causing my pain (yet). He sent me to a pain specialist (long story short, no help), who sent me to a physical therapist. After 14 weeks of PT, I started to improve (stretching and muscle exercises 3x a week). My gp is monitoring my progress and told me to continue with the advil. I have good days and bad days, but overall am getting better. I am trying to keep up with my exercises, they seem to help. Also the advil helps, hence my question on extended use (I am currently far away from my gp but have access to this board ).
Thanks for your concern.
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I used to have back pain. It would go out 3 or 4 times a year, .... So here I am after 6 years with no more episodes, I still get sore occasionally but its quite minor and after the excerise it goes away. This has been a lifesaver for me.
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I did a number on my back when I was younger ... More importantly I've learned that I can avoid most "bad back days" if I care for my back ... When I let those things slip by skipping too many workouts ... the back discomfort just sort of slowly creeps up on me
Thanks guys... this is what I have found also... your experiences verify that I had better keep up with my DAILY exercises.
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I just finished slathering my back with Active-On right before reading your thread. I injured my back last year lifting a patient. It's the gift that keeps giving

I don't like taking oral anti-inflammatories because I am into weight lifting and have read a research article lately stating that anti-inflammatories interfere with muscle hypertrophy.

I love this stuff; maybe you should consider a topical analgesic, along with heat therapy and massage (I have a large massager we call "the thumper"), it helps to decrease the spasm pain.
Thanks Amy ... I may try that ... however I want to give daily exercise (and drugs (hey I'm a product of the 60's and 70's)) a chance 1st.
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I am a firm believer that exercise works wonders for mind, body and soul. Our bodies are a wondrous piece of machinery!

When researching my weight loss eBook, I was very surprised to find research supporting that exercise can actually increase the amount of knee cartilage; I had no idea it was regenerative.

If it can increase the knees, why not the back or other joints?

Also examine your diet; your body cannot repair itself with the proper nutrition!
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I have a 'butt wedge' cushion that I sit on that makes me sit upright.
Mega, could you do me a favor and measure your butt wedge for me?

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Old 02-17-2008, 11:53 AM   #31
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T-Al,

I've never played piano, so forgive me if I ask some questions that are basic/stupid.

When you are sight-reading, this means you are reading sheet music, right? And when you play jazz, are you just playing from memory?

I know you said your posture is the same, but I wonder if when you are sight-reading you are slightly nodding your head downward or forward, creating a forward head position. This would indeed make you slouch more in the midback, creating chronic stress to the area and resulting in pain. You may be able to position you sheet music differently so that your head/eyes are better aligned and overall your posture is better.

Also, usually it can be helpful to do stretches for the pec muscles (to reduce rounded shoulders) and strengthening for the scapular retractors (rows, etc.) to help keep the shoulders pulled back better.
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When you are sight-reading, this means you are reading sheet music, right? And when you play jazz, are you just playing from memory?
When I play jazz, I'm reading from a "lead-sheet" like this:

Lullaby.jpg

as opposed to something like this:



But many of the pieces I've memorized, so I often don't use anything music at all.

You are right that my posture is different when sight-reading, and this is my explanation for why I've gone for years with no problems, and now suddenly have a problem.

But now that the inflammation is there, I think it will hurt and be further injured even if I have perfect posture. Even vacuuming this morning caused some irritation.

Best would be to give it a few weeks to heal, but that's not an option. I'm hoping that with a few days rest, ice pack, ibuprofen, lots of stretches and breaks, that it will gradually improve.
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Mega, could you do me a favor and measure your butt wedge for me?


Thanks.
T-Al, here is a url of where it can be ordered.
Healthy Back - Tush Cush
To answer your specific question:
Width: 18" Depth: 13.5" Thickness: Slopes from 3" down to .5".
It is TECHICALLY called a tush-cush ... no kidding. I bought the thing a few years ago and the price was outrageous then at 29.95 including shipping. It is now 40 bucks. Google tushcush and you may find a cheaper one. I've seen cheaper ones from overseas, but the cushion is not as firm. Which defeats the purpose. Happy hunting.

Tush Cush

$39.99 ID#-6015500010 This is the original Tush Cush Orthopedic Seat Cushion! The Tush Cush is perfect for anywhere you sit. It is scientifically designed to relieve and prevent back pain, numbness in the buttocks area, and other discomforts associated with sitting. A unique cut-out section suspends the coccyx (tailbone) above seat surfaces, which reduces the pressure on and within the lower spinal discs. The slight wedge shape encourages proper postures -- by tipping the pelvis slightly forward, the Tush Cush helps restore the natural curves of the lumbar region of the spine. Works at home, in an office, in the car, at sporting events...anywhere you sit can be made more comfortable with the Tush Cush. Limited 1-year warranty. Cover is removable and washable.
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Perfect, thanks, Mega. As usual I'll make something out of scrap lumber first to get a feeling for whether it will work for me.
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I was trying to determine how a wedgie would help your back...

For regular, ol', run-of-the-mill pain, it's hard to beat ibuprofen. But occasionally, I do something just right (wrong), and something between my lower back and hip get so tight that I can barely move. The only thing I've found that will stop it is a muscle relaxant.
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And here it is, the 2008 Tightwad Tush Cush .
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I'll try it out as soon as the stain dries.
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And here it is, the 2008 Tightwad Tush Cush .
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I'll try it out as soon as the stain dries.
A true tightwad would not have bothered staining it.
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It will be stained soon enough...
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Alright Al, why is there a hole in it?

Just so you guys know, I've never felt any undue physical pain requiring pain medications or special seats as a result of watching tv in my underwear with a bowl of ice cream.

Highly recommended. There must be some sort of pain suppressant incorporated into the ice cream.
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