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Old 10-29-2015, 10:41 AM   #61
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b/c of I have high cholesterol.
That Dietary Cholesterol causes high Blood Cholesterol is not universally accepted... and certainly not proven.
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Old 10-29-2015, 10:54 AM   #62
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My parents ate bacon regularly. Dad got colon cancer in his 70s. Mom, currently 86, has not so far. So many factors involved!
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That Dietary Cholesterol causes high Blood Cholesterol is not universally accepted... and certainly not proven.
I have taken cholesterol test every 6 months for over a decade now. My personal observation has been that eating meat increases my C-level. E.g, I didn't need C pills at all when I tried all vegetarian diet for a few months.
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What do you cure it with? AFAIK, it is the nitrates that are the carcinogenic concern. And, AFAIK, most curing involves nitrates (maybe some use only sodium?), even the 'uncured' meats that use some celery derived product.

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That was meant tongue in cheek. And no we don't use sodium in our cure, just really heavy on the salt
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What do you cure it with? AFAIK, it is the nitrates that are the carcinogenic concern. And, AFAIK, most curing involves nitrates (maybe some use only sodium?), even the 'uncured' meats that use some celery derived product.

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That was meant tongue in cheek. And no we don't use sodium in our cure, just really heavy on the salt
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Prosciutto! Pork and salt - that's it.
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Prosciutto! Pork and salt - that's it.
Hmmmm, Prosciutto! A little can really dress up a dish. Prosciutto-wrapped cantaloupe, or asparagus, or use a piece to line another meat to kick up the flavor. Hmmmm.

I just assumed it was nitrate cured, I'll need to look at the ones I buy. Wiki says it is done both ways, but tradition is just salt and air drying and pressing.

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Prosciutto is sometimes cured with nitrites (either sodium or potassium), which are generally used in other hams to produce the desired rosy color and unique flavor, but only sea salt is used in Protected Designation of Origin hams. Such rosy pigmentation is produced by a direct chemical reaction of nitric oxide with myoglobin to form nitrosomyoglobin, followed by concentration of the pigments due to drying. Bacteria convert the added nitrite or nitrate to nitric oxide.
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I ate a well done 8-oz steak last night at dinner. I'm doomed! Call the doctor, call the nurse, call the lady with the alligator purse.

(BTW, it was utterly divine.... )
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(BTW, it was utterly divine.... )

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Hmmmm, Prosciutto! A little can really dress up a dish. Prosciutto-wrapped cantaloupe, or asparagus, or use a piece to line another meat to kick up the flavor. Hmmmm.

I just assumed it was nitrate cured, I'll need to look at the ones I buy. Wiki says it is done both ways, but tradition is just salt and air drying and pressing.



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Yep. The brand I buy at Costco is just pork, salt.

The additives to many bacon brands has me avoiding it at the moment - often maltodexrrin or caramel coloring, and "spices" or "flavorings" listed without specifying the exact ones.

I finally figured out prosciutto was an option for me right now.
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The title gets it wrong, imo. It should read, "Heroin and tobacco are as safe as bacon!" Now that's a headline that'd make me happy. (Not that I'm an opiate user, I just enjoy the glass is half-full and contrary perspectives).
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The additives to many bacon brands has me avoiding it at the moment
I'm surprised to hear that. I had no idea such a thing was done. Haven't bought "branded" bacon in probably 20 years -- I get it from an old-fashioned local butcher where they make their own bacon (as well as sausages and lunch meat). Great stuff, and no extraneous "stuff".
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(BTW, it was utterly divine bovine.... )
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Good one! That too. Utterly bovine and so delicious.
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Isn't it about time to raise some strong political opinions in this thread so we can get Porky to tie it up? I suspect he would be strongly opposed to the bacon-loving members here.
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Let me take another tack on this:
About 30 years ago I was visiting a winery in Napa (you've all heard the name).

The owner's daughter was giving a wine tour for us (free wine!) and went on this short speech about how, while the owner didn't smoke, he was dead set against the PC police who were ostracizing smokers.

His take was that first they would go after the smokers, then eating meat would be 'bad' and eventually, drinking wine would be 'bad for you'. (y'know..."alcohol")

That was 30 years ago...now we're at 2 out of 3...maybe he was on to something.
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That was 30 years ago...now we're at 2 out of 3...maybe he was on to something.
Maybe?
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There was a big sale on bacon at the grocery, any connection?
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I ate a well done 8-oz steak last night at dinner. I'm doomed! Call the doctor, call the nurse, call the lady with the alligator purse.
I'm doomed too. Succumbed to temptation today and bought 1/2 lb. of that big pepperoni in the deli window. Take a couple slices of that, one of ham, one of turkey breast, and some American cheese on my large salad for late lunch. Mmmmm!
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I'm doomed too. Succumbed to temptation today and bought 1/2 lb. of that big pepperoni in the deli window. Take a couple slices of that, one of ham, one of turkey breast, and some American cheese on my large salad for late lunch. Mmmmm!
Mmmmm!!! Sounds delicious. Today I'm still eating lightly in an attempt to make up for that delicious steak.
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