Cancer screening.. what turned out to be important

Brat

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More than some may ever want to know about this subject...

I am a current example of breast cancer screening. About 6 weeks ago I had a routine mammogram. The results of that screen were compared with a previous mammogram that is about 2 years old. One breast mam was suspicious so it was compared with the previous mam, there was a CHANGE. That was what caused my physician to insist on a biopsy.

Concurrently I was asked to participate in a study that compared mammogram to a breast MRI and a breast specific gamma imaging test (BSGI). Then I had a stereotactic biopsy of the suspicious spot from the mammogram and another one identified by the MRI/BSGI. The first was found to have invasive ductal carcinoma, grade 1 and ductal carcinoma in situ, the second did not find malignancy.

The MRI and BSGI targets blood flow, it didn't find the cancer as differentiated from the rest of the breast blood flow.

What is critical is the ability of the radiologist to compare mammograms over time. Although they were conducted in different cities I asked my former health care providers to provide my old images and reports routinely.* I recommend that practice.

My surgeon expects to find a very small cancer that hasn't spread, but as we all know there are no promises. I expect to go on our next recreation of the 60s, Alaska by ferry, the first of June.

MD humor: 5 years ago I had a colonoscopy where they excised a polyp. The current team found it funny that they lost that puppy in my intestinal tract. "Can you believe that?"
 
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Oh my goodness! Sending good thoughts that your excellent medical treatment continues.
 
Thank you for sharing your experience...

Best wishes from TX. :flowers:
 
Oh Brat! How scary. I'll be thinking of you and hoping for the best possible result from the biopsy.
 
Brat, we sure hope this ends well for you.
 
"I expect to go on our next recreation"

Good for you, attitude and outlook make a big difference.
 
Brat, Best wishes for a quick and total recovery.

2soon2tell
5 yr. and counting cancer survivor
 
I'm so sorry to hear this, Brat. Big hugs coming your way from north of the border. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you.
 
In many ways this was a blessing, it was caught very early. The lesson for all of us is to keep good records of tests of all types so that they can be used to look for changes in our health. Comparing an old x ray to a new one is a cost effective approach to finding potential problems. The reason I bring this up is that there is a report in the news of tests that do not improve your health. The study that I am a part of confirms that.

I appreciate every-one's good wishes and prayers. And while we are at it send some of those to the physicians and scientists who are treating and curing so many human conditions.

My health care team is top notch. The surgeon said I am healthier than most of her patients 25 years my junior. I plan to dance at my grand-baby's wedding.

FWIW, I am in my 70s. If I had been in my 40s it would have been much more serious. The tissue that is a problem will be removed and in combination with radiation statistically the outcome is comparable to more radical approaches. At this point I can joke about the conditions of an old lady's figure and wonder how I could finagle a lift in the process. :LOL:
 
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Best wishes to you during your treatment and recovery.

Have any other women in your family had the same issue?

Do you know your Vitamin D level?
 
I'm sorry about this, Brat. You have far more equanimity about this than most would.

MD humor: 5 years ago I had a colonoscopy where they excised a polyp. The current team found it funny that they lost that puppy in my intestinal tract. "Can you believe that?"
I guess the good news is that they didn't send in a second away team to recover the missing artifacts...
 
I take Vit. D daily.

My mother had an encapsulated cancer (it was not invasive) at the age of 82. Hers was palpable, mine is so small it needs a tracer from the biopsy for the surgeon to find. Mom lived for another 10 years after a mastectomy. Radiation was not an option for her as she was frail and had Parkinson's.

I don't think it is possible to attribute risk factors, other than age, at this stage. I took the estrogen/progesterone pill for about 10 years when that was in vogue to prevent heart disease in women and in high school I took advanced physics where I did experiments with radioactive isotopes.. but golly that was over 50 years ago.
 
I'm sorry about this, Brat. You have far more equanimity about this than most would.


I guess the good news is that they didn't send in a second away team to recover the missing artifacts...

After the colonoscopy they recommended a repeat in 5 years. I suspect that was their solution to the missing artifact problem.

My best friend in high school is a now retired general surgeon whose specialty was cancer patients. He has looked at the CV of my team assures me that they have great reputations with little comments like 'she was at Sloan, looks good.' He practiced at Anderson, Sloan Kettering and Cleveland Clinic. I can afford to have an attitude with a back bench like that.
 
Yes Brat, I hope things go very well for you.

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Best of luck Brat, it sounds like your outcome is going to be good with the early stage and thorough medical care. I hope your treatment is easy and takes care of the issue. Sending good thoughts to you!
 
Good luck with your procedure. Sounds like things were caught early.

Not so for a friend of mine who died this past week at age 52. Way too early. She was 51 when they found stage 4 colon cancer, having spread to the liver. She had not had a colonscopy at 50 as they recommend - perhaps the odds might have been a bit better if she had.

I was amazed at a Dr. Oz show last year that said that stage 1 colon cancer is 95% survivable, whereas the odds for stage 4 are slim. If you are 50, and haven't had your baseline test yet, what are you waiting for?
 
Very best of luck. I suspect you're tough enough to beat that little upstart.
 
My husband's niece recently died of colon cancer. It was found as the result of a random screening when she was in her 30s (a Kaiser Permantie study). Because of that, and subsequent treatment, she lived long enough to know her grand children. Subsequently her father was found to have colon cancer so it may be familial.

Older women (the age of many of your Mothers) can probably appreciate this better but.. I am well endowed. :blush: When I kidded with the radiation oncologist about dreaming of breast reduction she observed that I had some tissue to spare and to mention that to my surgeon (aka, no reason to back-fill). One of the radiation options typically results in long term ... firmness. :cool: This has been a real education.

This all may seem disrespectful of those who are/were diagnosed with advanced breast cancer for whom the diagnosis is a life and death matter. That is not my intention at all. I sincerely wish that their cancer had been identified early. It is incumbent on each of us to do what we can to give our health care providers the opportunity to preserve our health trough preventive screening, to become partners in preserving our quality of life. I wish all of you had been as lucky as I. Encourage your mother's, sister, and wives to have mammograms even after years of benign results when more tests seem senseless.

What is important is to know the best way to identify potential problems: routine screening where the radiologist can compare results over time.
 
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Brat, I am sending best wishes your way also. So glad that it was caught early and it sounds like you have very good doctors. Hope everything goes smoothly.
 
If you are 50, and haven't had your baseline test yet, what are you waiting for?
Spouse let me go first... one of the only times in my life when our relative age difference was not held against me.

Now she's dragging her feet until she has the "free time" to "get around to it". She's been so obscenely healthy for her entire life that she has a tough time surrendering herself to the authorities for the "inconvenience".
 
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