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Old 07-19-2011, 04:50 PM   #41
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Dr. Life doesn't really sell any products that I know of except his book and I think a telomerase-effecting product. Remember: Cenegenics made Dr. Life and not the other way around.

Essentially, Cenegenics is a Spa for Males. It's somewhat the equivalent of a woman going to a Spa for a Botox Party, etc. Well, that's not totally true: the basic Cenegenics lifestyle will definitely improve the health of most guys, especially those who would go to it. In other words, this changes internals as well as externals.
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These things always make me think of the late actor Robert Cummings, popular in the 1940s and 50s. He became so identified with (and afraid of losing) his youthful image that he turned into a health fanatic. I remember reading about his taking 70 or 80 vitamin pills every day, on an hourly schedule almost to the exclusion of other activity. I suppose that was as close as he could get to the Cenegenics routine at that time.

I'm also reminded of Ray Kurzweil, the current guru of "the singularity" who believes he will live forever thanks to the medical advances that are just around the corner (and probably always will be). Kurzweil makes Cummings look like a piker, as he reportedly takes over 200 vitamins and supplements a day, and even has a staff member who organizes them for him. He also spends one day a week at a clinic for intravenous supplementation (maybe even Cenegenics, for all I know).

I think it's great that folks like these have such options, but personally I feel they have gone off the deep end.
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I think it's great that folks like these have such options, but personally I feel they have gone off the deep end.
Me too; they sound insane.

I am reading War and Peace. I so admire the fearless way these soldiers and officers face a high probability of death. Their thoughts are mostly to acquitting themselves well in their roles, not necessarily about living a long time or even another hour.

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These things always make me think of the late actor Robert Cummings, popular in the 1940s and 50s. He became so identified with (and afraid of losing) his youthful image that he turned into a health fanatic. I remember reading about his taking 70 or 80 vitamin pills every day, on an hourly schedule almost to the exclusion of other activity. I suppose that was as close as he could get to the Cenegenics routine at that time.

I'm also reminded of Ray Kurzweil, the current guru of "the singularity" who believes he will live forever thanks to the medical advances that are just around the corner (and probably always will be). Kurzweil makes Cummings look like a piker, as he reportedly takes over 200 vitamins and supplements a day, and even has a staff member who organizes them for him. He also spends one day a week at a clinic for intravenous supplementation (maybe even Cenegenics, for all I know).

I think it's great that folks like these have such options, but personally I feel they have gone off the deep end.


I'm familiar with Kurzweil and I think that the ultimate irony is that there are cultures (Okinawa, Hunza, Villacamba, Abkhasians - see John Robbins book) where it is very common to live into the 90's and even 100's. These cultures have almost no heart disease, cancer, Alzheimer's, dementia or autoimmune disorders. Their secret? Low medium calories, LOTS of exercise and a plant-based, whole food diet (along with low stress, plenty of sleep, solid social structures, etc.)

And I know it's hard to believe, but they take NO supplements!

Again, though, I think it is so strange that someone would take 200 pills when the mystery of good health has already been discovered by a dozen or so other cultures around the globe...
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Dr. Life is one of the "apostles" of Cenegenics. About a quarter of Cenegenics patients are doctors. Only the very wealthy can afford it. About a third of their patients get treated with various hormones including DHEA, testosterone, HGH and HCG.

The HGH is potentially risky as it raises IGF-1 levels, which some experts believe could increase cancer risk. Other than that, it's seems pretty solid as it is run by leading physicians using the latest research. The catch is the price...
60 minutes featured Cenegenics several years ago, and was rebroadcast a couple weeks ago on MSNBC. They interviewed the founder, I believe, a Dr. Allen Mintz. He did use the growth hormones and was a physical specimen. Died a couple years later in 2007 at age 69 of brain hemorrhage if memory serves me.
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60 minutes featured Cenegenics several years ago, and was rebroadcast a couple weeks ago on MSNBC. They interviewed the founder, I believe, a Dr. Allen Mintz. He did use the growth hormones and was a physical specimen. Died a couple years later in 2007 at age 69 of brain hemorrhage if memory serves me.
Yeah, there's some weird anecdotal stories in the health and aging field: Euell Gibbons dying of stomach cancer and Roy Wolford dying at 79.
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However, what Cenegenics is doing is really a little different since they are not going the drug route (from what I have read) but rely on exercise, diet, lite supplementation and HRT. Essentially you're getting a very expensive health coach and you're highly motivated because you've paid thousands.
Just buy the book, much cheaper than going the Cenegenics route. The book does not contain much detail on HRT (so ignore it unless you want to discuss/explore with your PCP), but the exercise, nutrition and other misc advice seems very solid to me and worth the purchase price.
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Here's a guy who looks impossibly fit for someone who's 84 years old.

http://www.bobdelmonteque.com/
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Here's a guy who looks impossibly fit for someone who's 84 years old.

Dr. Bob Delmonteque's Lifelong Fitness - "Grow Younger as You Grow Older"
He's my new hero, very impressive.
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Here's a guy who looks impossibly fit for someone who's 84 years old.

http://www.bobdelmonteque.com/
Unbelievable. I am impressed, he would definitely whip me in I fight. I would have to carry a picture around to explain how an 84 yr. old man almost twice my age kicked my butt!
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