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Old 08-19-2012, 09:02 AM   #41
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Thanks for the Marks Daily Apple link.
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Those who ate the most eggs were the oldest – almost 70 years old on average, compared to the relatively sprightly 55 year-old egg avoiders. It’s pretty well accepted that with age comes the progression of atherosclerosis, a process that takes, well, time to occur. Plaque doesn’t just snap into existence; it develops. All else being equal, the older you get, the more plaque you’ll have.

Those who ate the most eggs also smoked the most and were the most diabetic.*To their credit, the authors tried to control for those factors, plus several others. Although they tried to control for sex, blood lipids, blood pressure, smoking, body weight index, and presence of diabetes, the study’s authors didn’t – couldn’t – account for all potentially confounding variables. In their own words, “more research should be done to take in possible confounders such as exercise and waist circumference.” Hmm. “Possible” confounders, eh?

Read more: Are Eggs Really As Bad For Your Arteries as Cigarettes? | Mark's Daily Apple
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This thread has given me an urge for some eggs. Onion, pepper, would make a nice omelette. Off I go.
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Sigh. Sometimes it seems like every study comes down to: If you eat X, and you're overweight, you smoke, and you're getting older, you're gonna die. I wonder if people keep doing these studies in the hope of finding some "X" (either eat this, or don't eat that) which will negate the effects of smoking, being overweight, and getting older!

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"Those who ate the most eggs also smoked the most and were the most diabetic.*To their credit, the authors tried to control for those factors, plus several others. Although they tried to control for sex, blood lipids, blood pressure, smoking, body weight index, and presence of diabetes, the study’s authors didn’t – couldn’t – account for all potentially confounding variables. In their own words, “more research should be done to take in possible confounders such as exercise and waist circumference.” Hmm. “Possible” confounders, eh?"
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Note - this is also a population of stroke victims/heart patients only, and they were asked to report what they ate from MEMORY! And for some reason the authors only asked about egg consumption in addition to smoking?

I think I read in another analysis that the older folks who ate more eggs also had a better cholesterol profile than the younger folks who ate fewer eggs. But the authors did not elaborate on that paradox in their study.
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So smoking is only as bad as eating a few eggs?

Time to spark one up!
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Although they tried to control for sex...
So which was better, more sex, or less? Please say more...

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But the authors did not elaborate on that paradox in their study.
Can you say "China Study"?

It seems many of these studies start with the premise that eating meet is bad, whether for misguided "cholesterol" reasons, preconceived "environmental" reasons, or whatever, and then twist the results to suit that conclusion.

So, you have self-reporting, confounding factors, crappy "control" diets, and "researchers" who already have an outcome in mind...
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So which was better, more sex, or less? Please say more...
But then, what about the effects of smoke afterwards?
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