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Old 05-22-2015, 10:31 AM   #41
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I'll never forget a quote by ex-footballer turned actor Howie Long, to the effect that "Football is a desperate game played by desperate men".
I wouldn't disagree. Although any pursuit where one is in the top 0.001% or higher carries a real risk of that.
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Serious weightlifting has been shown to significantly increase the risk of various injuries. I'm not aware of it showing any significant benefit other than cosmetics except in very niche areas (e.g., pro football players). This differentiates it from cardio. And strength training through other means such as yoga.

This follows what I mentioned earlier. There is no reason for anyone just interested in general fitness to try to lift as much as possible. Resistance training has many benefits; look at all the "skinny fat" folks who only do cardio...
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I don't know how other people's bodies work, but this is 1000% consistent with the way my particular, individual body works. Exercise really doesn't affect my weight although what I eat does affect it tremendously. Maybe my metabolism adjusts to compensate for the exercise, but anyway exercise doesn't seem to help my weight loss at all.

I exercise whether I am working on losing weight, or whether I am not, because I want to be as strong, flexible, and capable as I can be now that I am growing older.

For me exercise is a very serious form of preparation for old age with the objective of becoming a strong, capable, independent elderly person instead of a feeble old lady. Honestly, what person over 50 would NOT exercise when you think of the alternatives as we grow older?
Ditto. (Except that I don't want to be a feeble old man.)
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An 89 year old Dick van Dyke talks about his reasons for working out at the 1:20 point
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This follows what I mentioned earlier. There is no reason for anyone just interested in general fitness to try to lift as much as possible. Resistance training has many benefits; look at all the "skinny fat" folks who only do cardio...
If "lift as much as possible" means maximum weight with one rep, I agree. But I'm a strong proponent of lifting heavy weights, such as an amount where one fails on about the 15th rep. It neutralizes the natural muscle loss as one ages, increases metabolism, makes one much less susceptible to serious injury from a fall or similar, and allows one to continue to do heavy lifting (during house projects, etc) much later in life than if the weight training was neglected. I have a 60-something friend who shares my philosophy, and he had little trouble helping me remove and carry outside a cast iron bathtub the other day. And I bet he'll still be able to do that a few years down the road.

Of course good form is essential to prevent injury, and one must ease into it to allow the joints and whatnot to adjust to the added stress.
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But I'm a strong proponent of lifting heavy weights, such as an amount where one fails on about the 15th rep.
That is not "heavy" weight. I hear this kind of thing a lot. Some people will go on about how they (and usually imply everybody should, but not accusing you of implying that here) workout "vigorously everyday". Well, if you're working out vigorously or intensely baby you ain't doing it every day. If can exercise everyday it's not very intense. If you're doing it intensely you're doing it maybe 2 days a week. Three if you're young.

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Good form is essential to prevent injury from improper form. Injuries will still happen and are not all are preventable. Just the preventable ones are.

Like those people who think they will stay healthy and therefor have fewer medical bills because they exercise. Funny
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I lift "heavy" for me, and alternate between 5x5 and 3x10 every six weeks or so. And I don't exercise the same muscle groups on consecutive days.

I do see fellow exercisers doing rep after rep with very little weight. Probably still some benefit, but that's more an aerobic exercise. Plus, it ties up the machines...
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I lift "heavy" for me, and alternate between 5x5 and 3x10 every six weeks or so. And I don't exercise the same muscle groups on consecutive days.

I do see fellow exercisers doing rep after rep with very little weight. Probably still some benefit, but that's more an aerobic exercise. Plus, it ties up the machines...
Annoying, isn't it! I guess they are working on endurance rather than strength. It sure takes a long time for them to finish.
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I'm very leery of the competitive mind-set in exercise. The danger of this attitude is that if/when you acquire a moderate disability of some sort [osteoarthritis, say], you may push yourself too hard and make things worse.

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This is why I like weight lifting. I have no idea what other women my age can, or do lift. I am only competitive with myself, and listening to my body is part of the process.
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Here's something that I didn't know. Apparently the visceral fat in the belly responds to exercise much more that other fatty areas. Good for people like me who put it all on front. Although I must say I haven't noticed if this is true.

http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/0...gs&region=Body


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Last time my body-fat was measured, it was 23% overall - but only 4% visceral fat. As long as I can faintly see the outline of my abs (really seeing abs = underweight, for me, and I don't want that) I'm happy.

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Here's something that I didn't know. Apparently the visceral fat in the belly responds to exercise much more that other fatty areas. Good for people like me who put it all on front. Although I must say I haven't noticed if this is true.

http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/0...gs&region=Body


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