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Old 12-18-2008, 08:50 AM   #21
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Just to quantify things, 10 years of the above dose would cost $1,824.
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Old 12-18-2008, 11:35 AM   #22
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Just to quantify things, 10 years of the above dose would cost $1,824.

Damn thats like .49 cents a day. You could feed 4 kids in an African nation for that much.
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Damn thats like .49 cents a day. You could feed 4 kids in an African nation for that much.
And that will make your knees stop hurting?
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Old 12-18-2008, 11:45 AM   #24
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And that will make your knees stop hurting?
No I was just helping out with a comparison. Im still taking mine..
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Old 12-18-2008, 01:28 PM   #25
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When I had incapacitating knee pain a few years ago, I asked my doctor about glucosamine chondroitin. She said there was no harm in trying it. On the third day, I broke out in hives probably due to a shellfish allergy, and stopped using it. My knee pain got better in a few months without it. A couple of years went by and I developing incapacitating hip pain. But the problem wasn't the knees or the hip but x-rays showed arthritis of the spine. If you believe internet web sites, knee pain can sometimes be a side effect of back problems.
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Old 12-18-2008, 10:01 PM   #26
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Just to quantify things, 10 years of the above dose would cost $1,824.
To quantify things accurately, in the vicinity of $913.60 @ Sam's Club (50% less than those high-priced drug stores).
LBYM...

Not having knees that throb 24/7? PRICELESS
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Old 12-18-2008, 10:14 PM   #27
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Damn maybe I have some dog in me.


Oooohhhh, my first response would *so* get me in trouble with the mods...
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Oooohhhh, my first response would *so* get me in trouble with the mods...

Do it. 100 years from now what will it matter.
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...Bit the bullet in '06 and had TKR (total knee replacement) on the left one, although the surgeon said he could have replaced either knee at that point.

TKR's a whole 'nother thread for 'nother day. Better living through titanium & plastic...
I'd like to read about your experience with a TKR.

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I'd like to read about your experience with a TKR.
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Oh no we wouldn't.

Monday I'm visiting the primary care physician for the consults to get my first orthopedic arthroscopic ACL replacement & meniscal trims in about six months... in other words, if you're at the destination of my journey then I'm hoping that you're happy!

I was sitting next to a 78-year-old man last month. We got to comparing war wounds and he said "Or you could just do what I did, and get total knee replacments. I'm a lot better now!" I asked "A lot better compared to what?" He replied "Compared to being all f$%^ed up!"
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Old 12-19-2008, 11:32 PM   #31
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Oh no we wouldn't.

Monday I'm visiting the primary care physician for the consults to get my first orthopedic arthroscopic ACL replacement & meniscal trims in about six months... in other words, if you're at the destination of my journey then I'm hoping that you're happy!

I was sitting next to a 78-year-old man last month. We got to comparing war wounds and he said "Or you could just do what I did, and get total knee replacements. I'm a lot better now!" I asked "A lot better compared to what?" He replied "Compared to being all f$%^ed up!"
Hmmm...not at our ages, given the current ~15-20 year expected life of a TKR, and the fact that you can only count on a single replacement then (assuming no technological improvements occur between R&R's). I want to stay on my feet until the end.

For those who didn't see my posts from back then I'm about 20 months post surgery now after getting a new/used ACL from a cadaver along with an abrasion process to stimulate the formation of "pseudo-cartilage" to provide a slick if paper-thin bearing surface rather than the bone-on-bone grinding I had previously.

It worked well enough...I can walk with no pain again (that's a huge deal if you've ever been unable too), but have been told that any running or jumping would seriously reduce the service life of the pseuo-cartilage.

After ~7 holes of golf (with a cart) it begins to ache and is somewhat swollen for a few days. So on holes 8 and 9 I'm more inclined to drop a new ball rather than trot down any hillsides after an errant tee shot. A bit of icing and 4-5 Ibuprofens a few times a day and I'm back to normal.

That knee is prone to little stabbing pains too...I remember wrestling a sheet of plywood off my utility trailer on a windy day when I tweaked the knee. I quickly concluded that the plywood looked just fine laying in the middle of the driveway and retired to the couch with one of my ever-ready ice-packs and an Ibuprofen chaser.

It gets mighty stiff during long distance driving too. I've got a little drill I do by the gas pumps to get it moving again before I try walking to fetch coffee.

I'd like to get to at least 55 before a TKR. From I read orthopedic docs will do the abrasion or micro-fracture processes 3-4 times before going with a TKR, but the rehab/recovery is such a drag I'd be inclined to try only one more round of these temporary fixes.

Nords, I think you're in much better shape needing an ACL and a bit of meniscus trimming...just don't go wearing through your remaining cartilage in the meantime! I don't imagine you find yourself driving >10 hours on that little island of yours either.

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Having been active every day at work and on weekends with no history of joint problems, after retirement I sat around for a year. The next year, following any physical activity, my joints were sore and made cracking and popping noises. On an annual checkup, my Dr. suggested GC. Not expecting much, I tried it and lost the soreness and the noise. I've discontinued the use and I'm still symptom free. GC worked well for me, but I'm now more conscious of trying to eat cartilage-friendly foods, i.e. ox-tail soup, pho, or fresh pineapple. I've started backpacking again and my knees have no soreness. That is a noticeable difference compared to my previous symptoms from much lighter exercise.
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