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Old 02-19-2016, 09:20 PM   #41
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I think you will find the wrist HR monitor to be pretty accurate. Most problem with them seem to be difficulty in activities that demand more twisting of the wrist like with weight lifting. I had a fit bit and used it for running and compared it to a chest strap and was always within a beat. The only issue I did have was while running if I sweated a great deal on my arms and wrist that sometimes I would get no HR reading at all until i wiped the sensor with my shirt. Actually was easy to do without breaking stride. A good looking and accurate activity tracker/gps watch with the added benefit of music, dont need to carry phone or other music player is the tomtom spark cadio+ music. Read very good reviews on it. Great site for reviews is: rizknows.com
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"I can correlate better runs (faster with lower HR) with what I ate: chips w/salt and salsa do wonders for my performance"

Now you're talking. This is my favorite snack. Never did try it right before a run. I feel an experiment coming on!


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The salsa (capsaicin) releases endorphins, just like running does. So you already have the high before you start the run......
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Never need any motivation for me to have salsa and chips but I like your train of thought!


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The term Heart Rate threw me a little, as "Pulse" was the term I've always tuned in to. After reading more about HR and measurement, it appears that there are some differentiations having to do with how, when, and what conditions are present during the measurement.
Nothing earth shattering, but this Heart Association article does go into some detail about taking and interpreting readings.


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HR and workouts

Well I got the Garmin 235 with HR monitor. I took it out on a 4 mile run at 9:20 pace. I'm trying to stay above 9 minutes a mile for a while to avoid more hip soreness. My HR was a low of 65 and a high of 161. I was shocked that it got that high. If 220-age(60) = a max heart rate of 160, then I'm at my max. Doesn't make sense because I can carry on a conversation at 160 HR, and I normally run around a minute per mile faster. That would indicate an even higher HR at my normal pace. It was cool though- the watch was giving me HR warnings when I reached the low 150's.(I entered my birth year, height and weight, so I guess it figures out the max HR.

Glad that I'm finally looking at HR and thanks to all of you who posted very helpful info.


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This calculated max HR thing (220 minus age or some equivalent) has been bothering me for many years (yes, I have many pet peeves). It may be good enough to apply to the general population but is completely useless (IMHO) for me or most people I know. Your own max is specific to you.

A good example is when I was a really active runner around age 40, my calculated max HR would have been 180. But when I did a max effort for the last mile of a long run, my actual HR (using a chest strap) was always over 190.

Similarly, when I was 64, my calculated max would have been 156, but I frequently finished my run going up a long steep hill and hit 175 routinely.

I would encourage anyone who wants to use HR as a training tool to find out your real maximum heart rate. It's not hard to do.

Just get a good HR monitor (I always used either a Polar or Garmin with a chest strap) and do the most vigorous workout you can stand for at least fifteen minutes, then finish by giving it all you've got, pushing yourself to the utter exhaustion point where you simply have to stop because you've given it all you have. Your top measured HR is your own true maximum.

Once you have that, it's easy to calculate percentage bands from it to customize your training.

Please note that I am not telling anyone to do this. This would be a very serious decision that you probably want to check with your doctor about before you attempt it. Particularly true in the case of anyone who doesn't already do this kind of exercise routinely.
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Or just get cardiac stress test in your cardiologist's lab.
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Or just get cardiac stress test in your cardiologist's lab.
Much as I hate to harp on the subject, I would actually disagree with that recommendation.
Most cardiac stress tests are programmed to stop when you reach your "calculated" max HR out of an abundance of caution. So they may not give you your actual max.
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^I do agree with that, so discuss with your physician.

There is really no reason why your HRmax should be exactly 220 - age. It could be near it or luckily on it or not. That's like saying every person's height is 180 cm minus the height of their shoe heels.
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Agree that "rule of thumb" Max HR is not necessarily correct. I exceed my max HR quite frequently and suspect my max is closer to 170 than the calculated 155. Doctor supervised stress tests will never take you to the max as they don't want you to collapse. They generally take me to about 145 and I always offer to go higher but they refuse.

My younger wife takes her HR to 170 on most workouts. I suspect that fitter people may have a higher Max HR?
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I suspect that fitter people may have a higher Max HR?
My understanding is that your max HR is pretty specific to you and not very related to fitness level.

OTOH, fitter people almost always have a lower resting HR.
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I found some web site online to calculate my HR max and various workout zones. It also depends on your resting rate. And women are different from men. So do a little web searching to get a more accurate number?

Anyway I can go over 170 and not pass out. Still rowing - no problem. I think I've crossed 176 or 178. That's when I slow down a little.

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i agree on the individuality of max HR and the resulting target training range of 65-85% of that number. I will continue to train with HR and learn my own range.
Right now I'm laid up with some strong cervical pain which is going to sideline me for hopefully only a little bit. i will take this downtime to research more electronic gadgets and bikes, kayaks and fishing gear. i'm getting some spring fever. we had two days in the 50's here so got me going. i know more freezing weather is in store but that warm weather got the juices flowing and had fun outside!
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When running I tend to take my heart rate right up to the max and occasionally higher. My heart is in very good shape and I hope to keep it that way. My resting rate can be as low as the upper 40s.
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NMJ, that is a great resting HR.


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I use a Garmin with chest strap. I've heard the chest strap allows for a more accurate HR measurement.
My max HR is around 205 and I love bumping it up in the 180 range (spinning, running, cycling, HIIT classes, etc.). I've found that outdoor running gets my HR up more quickly than cycling activities). My HR drops quickly during cool down and my resting HR is in mid-50's. I enjoy working out and now include weight training to balance out the cardio. It certainly helps to love outdoor activities too! I'm a 58 YO female.


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For me ... I have not found a reliable way to measure heart rate. Sometimes the exercise machines measure right... most of the time they are so far off... of just get confused and show nothing. The led on the finger one seems to be most reliable, but awkward.

I tend to max my heart rate at 150bpm. Above that the pacemaker quits pacing and the ventricles don't get any signals... so I just run out of breath very quickly. If I keep it in the upper 140s of just at 150... I can keep going without really heavy breathing.

Before I got the PM my resting rate was in the mid 40s. The PM will only let my low rate go to 50bpm. After I got the PM it was filling in the signals on the ventricles 2% of the time. In less than 3 months it was filling in 99% of the time. So now there is not much point in going above 150.
But using 220-age puts 150 at 90% of max.
In another 5 years I should be able to get a faster PM... I search for the max then.
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OK. Probably good to not criticize. But we sure criticize other "bad financial behaviour" here. Why not bad health behaviour?

....Um...I'll take a shot at this. Because genetics play no part in fiscal responsibility. How many people have you known, or heard of, that were very health conscious and died at 59? Or led a less than exemplary life and lived to be 101? It's just the great unknown. I mean, good god, how is Keith Richards still alive?

You can't say the same about people who are mired in debt their entire life and act stupidly about money. The result of which is always the same.

To me, the whole point of being retired (early) was that I wanted to live my life my way. Maybe not the best way, but my way. I didn't want to follow anybody's rules anymore. Just my own. If I do anything stupid there is no boss to blame anymore except my wife.

I don't know. Criticizing others for not getting on a treadmill is not why I'm here so, I'll skip those threads. But these threads about the benefits of exercise, I love 'em. I learn a lot. Very motivating.

And I do exercise. Every day. Because I want to. It makes me happy.

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Unfortunately I'm still sidelined with cervical spine issues but I'm enjoying reading everyone's posts. How are you actually incorporating HR into your workout program? What is your main goal for tracking your HR? I was mainly using it to make sure my effort was consistant on long (time wise)activities; running, cycling etc.


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