I am Reading "UltraPrevention".........

FinanceDude · 01-29-2008, 02:45 PM

Interesting book, basically they think a lot of the diseases people suffer from are due to a lack of certain minerals and/or amino acids or proteins or vitamins in the body. They say a simple blood test can tell if you have a deficiency in one or more of those areas.

I asked my GP about it, but she is not a fan. Maybe for my next blood test, I'll request they test for my levels on all that stuff...........

May be Rich will comment. There is a local MD that will do this kind of work, and I am considering going to see her.........thoughts??

Notmuchlonger · 01-29-2008, 02:51 PM

It cant be that simple.

**Marquette** · 01-29-2008, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Notmuchlonger

It cant be that simple.

Agreed.

However, SciAm had a wonderful article a few issues back on vitamin D, how it helps, and the fact that many of us are deficient, especially during the winter in the north.

I've been taking 1000 IU of D daily since October and haven't been sick or died yet!

A854321 · 01-30-2008, 02:40 PM

FinanceDude- Be careful about requesting testing on level of such things in your blood. If your doctor cannot substantiate a disease process that she is trying to evaluate, your insurer will likely deny coverage. Esoteric testing is very very expensive and you will be left holding the bill.

I think this stuff about nutritional deficiencies is absolute garbage. We are far better fed in all respects ( proteins, vitamins, trace minerals) than any of our forefathers. Taking a daily multivitamin is fine. But unless you have specific symptoms, screening is worthless.

And the local MD who does this sort of thing is usally a fringe-type person who will want to sell you something. In our area, the guy usually wants to sell you chelation therapy too, cash only- no insurance accepted.

samclem · 01-30-2008, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by A854321

And the local MD who does this sort of thing is usally a fringe-type person who will want to sell you something. In our area, the guy usually wants to sell you chelation therapy too, cash only- no insurance accepted.

That's because of the big Pharma/big medicine CON*SPI*RACY!! They don't want us to learn of the benefits of Noni juice, homeotherapy, etc becase it threatens their MON*O*POLY! The only reason these alternative cures aren't being proven in double-blind studies published in reputable peer reviewed journals is the vested interests of BIG MED*I*CINE. Just like the SOB's at Exxon suppressed the 200 MPG carburetor!

Notmuchlonger · 01-30-2008, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by samclem

That's because of the big Pharma/big medicine CON*SPI*RACY!! They don't want us to learn of the benefits of Noni juice, homeotherapy, etc becase it threatens their MON*O*POLY! The only reason these alternative cures aren't being proven in double-blind studies published in reputable peer reviewed journals is the vested interests of BIG MED*I*CINE. Just like the SOB's at Exxon suppressed the 200 MPG carburetor!

What the hell is noni juice?

**Marquette** · 01-30-2008, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Notmuchlonger

What the hell is noni juice?

Noni - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

apparently much different than nana juice.

Notmuchlonger · 01-30-2008, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Marquette

Noni - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

apparently much different than nana juice.

Bet its a great laxative.

**Rich_in_Tampa** · 01-30-2008, 03:49 PM

Eat your fruits and veggies. A multivitamin can't hurt, though probably unnecessary unless you don't do the former. Live north? A touch of vitamin D is probably reasonable. Fats and sweets? You know the routine. Stay or get skinny and active. Wine's nice, too.

Then go forth and be happy.

But... for $189 I'll check your porcelain level. I take Paypal.

unclemick · 01-30-2008, 04:05 PM

Diet Pepsi, homemade bacon cheeseburger, fried potato wedges(aka chips). Did have a small bowl of homemade veggie soup for desert. Equate(WM generic) multi vitamin as the magic silver bullet.

heh heh heh - skipped running in the snow

.

**Rich_in_Tampa** · 01-30-2008, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by unclemick

Diet Pepsi, homemade bacon cheeseburger, fried potato wedges(aka chips). Did have a small bowl of homemade veggie soup for desert. Equate(WM generic) multi vitamin as the magic silver bullet.

Aaahh - job security.

Notmuchlonger · 01-30-2008, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Rich_in_Tampa

Aaahh - job security.

WHAT! he had a diet pepsi in that order

unclemick · 01-30-2008, 05:21 PM

Bookends of health with plenty of delicious sin in the middle!

I didn't live thirty years in New Orleans for nothing!

"Live to eat - not eat to live."

heh heh heh - ok ok so there are no studies to support my theory. I'll eat a bag of oranges tomorrow to atone - or something.

Notmuchlonger · 01-30-2008, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by unclemick

Bookends of health with plenty of delicious sin in the middle!

I didn't live thirty years in New Orleans for nothing!

"Live to eat - not eat to live."

heh heh heh - ok ok so there are no studies to support my theory. I'll eat a bag of oranges tomorrow to atone - or something.

I could live on fried potatoe wedges. With ranch or blue cheese dressing. Well maybe if you threw in some buffalo wings with extra hot sauce...

mh · 01-30-2008, 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by samclem

That's because of the big Pharma/big medicine CON*SPI*RACY!! They don't want us to learn of the benefits of Noni juice, homeotherapy, etc becase it threatens their MON*O*POLY! The only reason these alternative cures aren't being proven in double-blind studies published in reputable peer reviewed journals is the vested interests of BIG MED*I*CINE. Just like the SOB's at Exxon suppressed the 200 MPG carburetor!

amen !

FinanceDude · 01-31-2008, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by unclemick

Diet Pepsi, homemade bacon cheeseburger, fried potato wedges(aka chips). Did have a small bowl of homemade veggie soup for desert. Equate(WM generic) multi vitamin as the magic silver bullet.

heh heh heh - skipped running in the snow

.

With that diet, you'll live to be 120...........

FinanceDude · 01-31-2008, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Rich_in_Tampa

Eat your fruits and veggies. A multivitamin can't hurt, though probably unnecessary unless you don't do the former. Live north? A touch of vitamin D is probably reasonable. Fats and sweets? You know the routine. Stay or get skinny and active. Wine's nice, too.

Then go forth and be happy.

But... for $189 I'll check your porcelain level. I take Paypal.

Ok, ok. How come a C-reactive protein test isn't a standard check for folks with a family history of high cholesterol? It's not like the test is brand new.

JPatrick · 01-31-2008, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Rich_in_Tampa

But... for $189 I'll check your porcelain level. I take Paypal.

I think the local PFALTZGRAFF outlet does it for $79.99

01-29-2008, 02:45 PM	#1
FinanceDude Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ... Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 6,848	I am Reading "UltraPrevention"......... Interesting book, basically they think a lot of the diseases people suffer from are due to a lack of certain minerals and/or amino acids or proteins or vitamins in the body. They say a simple blood test can tell if you have a deficiency in one or more of those areas. I asked my GP about it, but she is not a fan. Maybe for my next blood test, I'll request they test for my levels on all that stuff........... May be Rich will comment. There is a local MD that will do this kind of work, and I am considering going to see her.........thoughts?? __________________ Consult with your own advisor or representative. My thoughts should not be construed as investment advice. Past performance is no guarantee of future results (love that one).......:)

01-30-2008, 03:49 PM	#9
Rich_in_Tampa Moderator Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Tampa Posts: 5,611	Eat your fruits and veggies. A multivitamin can't hurt, though probably unnecessary unless you don't do the former. Live north? A touch of vitamin D is probably reasonable. Fats and sweets? You know the routine. Stay or get skinny and active. Wine's nice, too. Then go forth and be happy. But... for $189 I'll check your porcelain level. I take Paypal. __________________ Rich Tampa, FL (10% retired) As if you didn't know..If the above message happens to contain medical content, it's NOT intended as advice, and may not be accurate, applicable or sufficient. Don't rely on it for any medical purpose whatsoever. Consult your own doctor for all medical advice.

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