Portal Forums Links Register FAQ Community Calendar Log in

Join Early Retirement Today
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Insurers overstated doctor networks, California regulators charge
Old 11-20-2014, 01:19 AM   #1
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Lakewood90712's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 2,223
Insurers overstated doctor networks, California regulators charge

Article about Covered CA Blue Cross and Blue Shield network errors. From the LA Times Top insurers overstated doctor networks, California regulators charge - LA Times
__________________
" A person is smart, but People are dumb, dangerous, panicky animals, and you know it " Agent "K", Men in Black
Lakewood90712 is offline   Reply With Quote
Join the #1 Early Retirement and Financial Independence Forum Today - It's Totally Free!

Are you planning to be financially independent as early as possible so you can live life on your own terms? Discuss successful investing strategies, asset allocation models, tax strategies and other related topics in our online forum community. Our members range from young folks just starting their journey to financial independence, military retirees and even multimillionaires. No matter where you fit in you'll find that Early-Retirement.org is a great community to join. Best of all it's totally FREE!

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest so you have limited access to our community. Please take the time to register and you will gain a lot of great new features including; the ability to participate in discussions, network with our members, see fewer ads, upload photographs, create a retirement blog, send private messages and so much, much more!

Old 11-20-2014, 05:28 AM   #2
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Senator's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Williston, FL
Posts: 3,925
It won't be long and all providers will have to take all insurance. That would solve the mess. The government will set the prices, and not the insurance companies.
__________________
FIRE no later than 7/5/2016 at 56 (done), securing '16 401K match (done), getting '15 401K match (done), LTI Bonus (done), Perf bonus (done), maxing out 401K (done), picking up 1,000 hours to get another year of pension (done), July 1st benefits (vacation day, healthcare) (done), July 4th holiday. 0 days left. (done) OFFICIALLY RETIRED 7/5/2016!!
Senator is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-20-2014, 10:59 PM   #3
Full time employment: Posting here.
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 881
2014, had Covered California, Blue shield.

2015, plan going to Health Net, forget, Covered CA, ACA, obamacare.
still a mess.

One secret no one talks about, copays, coinsurance, and deductibles that have to me paid, before insurance kicks in.

Two good things, max $6K+, out of pocket per year. No pre-existing condition deniel.
wolf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-21-2014, 01:00 PM   #4
Moderator
rodi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: San Diego
Posts: 14,212
Quote:
Originally Posted by wolf View Post
2014, had Covered California, Blue shield.

2015, plan going to Health Net, forget, Covered CA, ACA, obamacare.
still a mess.

One secret no one talks about, copays, coinsurance, and deductibles that have to me paid, before insurance kicks in.

Two good things, max $6K+, out of pocket per year. No pre-existing condition deniel.
It's been talked about extensively... Not a secret at all. You pay in full till you meet your deductible - then you pay your copay or coinsurance till you meet your OOP max. How is that a secret?
What does deductible mean to you?
__________________
Retired June 2014. No longer an enginerd - now I'm just a nerd.
micro pensions 6%, rental income 20%
rodi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-21-2014, 01:09 PM   #5
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
timo2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Bernalillo, NM
Posts: 2,717
Quote:
Originally Posted by Senator View Post
It won't be long and all providers will have to take all insurance. That would solve the mess. The government will set the prices, and not the insurance companies.
I was thinking it would go the other way: Vertical integration: that the insurance companies would hire their own doctors, and those doctors would only take that particular insurance. Like ar to CVS and Walmart that are putting medical personnel in their stores. [edit: I mean similar to these stores. I don't know what insurances they take]
__________________

"We live the lives we lead because of the thoughts we think" ...Michael O’Neill
"We can cannot compel others to do our will" ....Norman Goldman
"There never is shortage of the gullible to accept the illogical"...Anonymous
timo2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-2014, 09:57 AM   #6
Recycles dryer sheets
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 257
The overstating of provider networks is not confined to ACA polices.

We have employer provided retiree insurance and I had this same issue this year. I was looking for an in-network specialist, consulted the online provider directory for my particular network (each insurer has multiple) and found someone, called them to make an appointment and was told they didn't take my insurance. I went back to my insurer, the agent's first assumption is that you can't use their online system so she told me that this Dr did indeed accept it. At which point I almost gave up, but insisted that they go further into their own system to check the provider contract, whereupon the agent told me that it had run out in October of 2011 - but it was still showing in their provider directory almost 3 years later! I submitted a request through the channels provided in their system for them to correct the incorrect provider (twice!) but 6 months later the whole group of doctors is still showing as in-network when I know that they are not.

I believe this is an industry-wide problem and not confined to Obamacare policies. It is important to check with any doctor you plan to use if they really are in-network.
__________________
too cheap to even use dryer sheets - never mind recycle them!
jj is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Dilbert cartoon about finance networks teejayevans FIRE and Money 1 12-04-2011 09:30 AM
Nortel Networks question freddyw Active Investing, Market Strategies & Alternative Assets 4 02-26-2009 07:50 AM
Anybody else use facebook or other online social networks? maddythebeagle Young Dreamers 13 10-28-2008 11:02 AM
Savings Targets Overstated? prubin FIRE and Money 24 12-01-2007 06:39 AM
Wireless Home Networks Jake46 Life after FIRE 23 01-13-2007 01:51 PM

» Quick Links

 
All times are GMT -6. The time now is 09:58 PM.
 
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.