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Old 04-03-2015, 03:06 PM   #61
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With the flu scenario ....if we have children, working class and eldery. The working class are around many people who are sick. While in the military I was sick yearly...since retired I have not once caught the flu nor received the vacc in 11 years. Kids get sick at school...but they are also the first to get care....our elderly to me seem usually isolated. So to me that makes perfect sense.


Wife is a doctor and fully believes that our genetics play the most part...but are impacted by environmental factors. I always say garbage in garbage out..if you think genetics aren't much look at boxing, football, baseball and mostly weightlifting.




Cheers just a couple pennies.


inheritance has surprisingly little influence on longevity.
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A few interesting quotes from the book "Supercentenarians', co-authored by James Vaupel. PDF version here -

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Half of supercentenarians have no children - isn't that a very strong indicator as well then?

It's a bit shocking to me too, since I thought having children and family gives you a better chance of having a strong social network later in life, which in turn should increase longevity and health?

Interesting link - thanks!

Also the link to killing off non-dividing cells as a trick to live longer is really food for thought if it pans out. Wikipedia is kind of sceptic regarding Quercetin though. Hurry up science, I am not going to live forever!
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Half of supercentenarians have no children - isn't that a very strong indicator as well then?

It's a bit shocking to me too, since I thought having children and family gives you a better chance of having a strong social network later in life, which in turn should increase longevity and health?
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Evolutionary theory predicts that there should be a tradeoff be-
tween survival and reproduction, so this finding, which needs to be carefully scrutinized and verifi ed may be a result of genes that reduce mortality at the expense of fertility.
As noted, being female is the greatest advantage to reaching advanced old age. All of the gains in longevity have been by bringing the average age up, not in extending the ultimate limit - thought to be unchanged for the last 100k years @ ~115yrs.
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