Join Early Retirement Today
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Is there a downside for being denied
Old 10-20-2007, 08:40 PM   #1
Recycles dryer sheets
Beststash's Avatar
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 141
Is there a downside for being denied

healthcare insurance coverage for an individual policy? My circumstances are that my past employer (retired) has cut healthcare benefits for my spouse. We still have access through my group plan but the cost has risen from $0 to over $600 per month in the last 4 years (her cost - total $874 per month). We were thinking that it might be beneficial to look into a HSA to save money. It looks like it would be a $2000-$3000 per year savings dollar savings if she qualifies - she (57) has a pre-existing condition (glaucoma). We don't expect the insurance company to approve her application but were wondering - is there a downside to being denied for individual insurance? We can always choose to insure through the group plan but were just looking to save some money.

Are the insurance companies "connected" in such a manner that they share information between themselves? If she were denied - would it affect any future efforts of decisions on healthcare? I just have a sneaky suspicion that it might b the case? I guess it could be paranoia - I get like that sometimes.

Beststash is offline   Reply With Quote
Join the #1 Early Retirement and Financial Independence Forum Today - It's Totally Free!

Are you planning to be financially independent as early as possible so you can live life on your own terms? Discuss successful investing strategies, asset allocation models, tax strategies and other related topics in our online forum community. Our members range from young folks just starting their journey to financial independence, military retirees and even multimillionaires. No matter where you fit in you'll find that is a great community to join. Best of all it's totally FREE!

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest so you have limited access to our community. Please take the time to register and you will gain a lot of great new features including; the ability to participate in discussions, network with our members, see fewer ads, upload photographs, create a retirement blog, send private messages and so much, much more!

Old 10-20-2007, 11:45 PM   #2
Full time employment: Posting here.
toofrugalformycat's Avatar
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Anchorage
Posts: 731
I don't know for sure, but there may indeed be a downside. In my case, a few years ago, I applied for an individual policy and was denied (I was shocked). When I applied to another company, they asked if I'd ever been denied and why. It didn't look good on the application!

What finally worked for me was to talk with a local insurance agent who represented multiple companies and could recommend which companies to apply to, and tell me before I applied if I'd likely be denied or not, and how much it would cost if I was accepted. If you've never applied for private insurance, you may be unpleasantly surprised at what they require you do just to apply. You don't want to put out that much effort and lose every shred of your privacy if you have no chance of being accepted anyway.

After I got accepted and had coverage for a couple of years, my insurer (Mutual of Omaha) sent me a letter telling me they were getting out of the health insurance business in my state!

I went back to the agent, and she informed me that the state I live in offers insurance for those denied coverage by private insurers. I had no idea there was that option. Spendy, but it filled the gap for me until I could retire and get coverage through an earlier employer.

My agent didn't charge me anything, other than she probably got part of my premium for those couple years I was insured.

Anyway, an insurance agent helped me here in Alaska.

toofrugalformycat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-21-2007, 02:10 PM   #3
Moderator Emeritus
Martha's Avatar
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: minnesota
Posts: 13,211
FAQS - MIB Group, Inc.

When you apply for individual insurance your health information can become part of a file at MIB and then available to other insurers with your authorization.

No more lawyer stuff, no more political stuff, so no more CYA

Martha is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-21-2007, 04:00 PM   #4
ziggy29's Avatar
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Texas
Posts: 15,419
Originally Posted by Martha View Post
FAQS - MIB Group, Inc.

When you apply for individual insurance your health information can become part of a file at MIB and then available to other insurers with your authorization.
This is stupid and, IMO, should be illegal. It should not matter whether you've been denied. The only thing that should matter is whether or not your conditions and history meet their underwriting guidelines. It seems absurd that you could meet some insurer's guidelines if you hadn't ever been denied, but could get denied with the exact same medical history if you applied somewhere else where they had different guidelines.
"Hey, for every ten dollars, that's another hour that I have to be in the work place. That's an hour of my life. And my life is a very finite thing. I have only 'x' number of hours left before I'm dead. So how do I want to use these hours of my life? Do I want to use them just spending it on more crap and more stuff, or do I want to start getting a handle on it and using my life more intelligently?" -- Joe Dominguez (1938 - 1997)
ziggy29 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-21-2007, 09:30 PM   #5
Recycles dryer sheets
Beststash's Avatar
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 141
Man - What a dilemma . I can get group insurance through my group policy but thought it might be better to try an HSA to lower my premiums. But now I find out that if I am denied, and it appears that I definitely will be, I will become a part of some sort of insider agency that shares this info to other in the industry and it in no way will be something that is a positive for me - is it even worth the attempt? I just hate it when I shoot myself in the foot - what to do?

Beststash is offline   Reply With Quote

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Denied Insurance Due to Previous Illness Johnzo Health and Early Retirement 13 10-28-2007 02:37 PM
Downside Protection BUM FIRE and Money 15 05-12-2007 05:45 AM
The downside of efficiency in medical care samclem Health and Early Retirement 0 01-11-2007 06:39 PM
How much Downside Risk are you comfortable with? DFW_M5 FIRE and Money 19 07-31-2005 07:33 PM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 11:58 AM.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2016, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.