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Old 03-25-2009, 09:24 AM   #1481
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No change. I'm choosing to look on that as a positive since I was on vacation last week.

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Old 03-25-2009, 11:19 AM   #1482
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Phew, had a business trip last week so I'm late. Didn't even weigh myself last week but I was 192 this morning, so thankfully I didn't do much damage. If anyone was staying in the Long Beach Marriot last week I apologize for doing my P90X jump training in my room!

I have come to the realization that I will not have abs for Hawaii (leave the 13th of April) but I will post pics from there anyway so you can see my progress (I'll rustle up a "before" as well). As DW describes it, right now I look "T.V. normal" as I'm in the normal BMI range, chest bigger than stomach, no gut hanging over etc. But there are still love handles (more like a thin layer of insulation) so I'm hoping to work those off in the next three weeks.

Oh, and I'm totally cheating and getting a professional spray on tan job before I go because I don't believe in skin cancer but want the illusion of a 10 lb drop that a tan gives you!
190 lbs this morning, so -2. I'm actually only 13 pounds of fat away from 10% body fat now. At 6'2" I'm actually looking pretty thin so long as I don't take my shirt off.
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190 lbs this morning, so -2. I'm actually only 13 pounds of fat away from 10% body fat now. At 6'2" I'm actually looking pretty thin so long as I don't take my shirt off.
Last time I was 190 was 1988.......

205 would be the bomb.........that's my goal. I am a little bigger build so I think 190 would make me look gaunt........
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Old 03-25-2009, 01:18 PM   #1484
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Last time I was 190 was 1988.......

205 would be the bomb.........that's my goal. I am a little bigger build so I think 190 would make me look gaunt........
I thought I would look skinny at 210 at one point. Each time I hit a new low I realize I was entirely too generous how how big of a guy I am. At 177 I'll be skinny minny but everytime I try to add lots of muscle while losing fat I just end up gaining fat. The science of calorie balance is too hard for me. Once I get to that low I hope to try and add some more muscle.

Edit: how tall are you, FD?
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I thought I would look skinny at 210 at one point. Each time I hit a new low I realize I was entirely too generous how how big of a guy I am. At 177 I'll be skinny minny but everytime I try to add lots of muscle while losing fat I just end up gaining fat. The science of calorie balance is too hard for me. Once I get to that low I hope to try and add some more muscle.

Edit: how tall are you, FD?
6'2".......same as you. I was 170 or so when I graduated HS. I was 188 when I graduated college. I suppose I could get back down in that range if I went hard at training......

I can't do P90X because I have a partially torn rotator cuff, so the weights are out. I am going to start cycling again. My ankle still doesn't feel good enough to run on. Walking is ok but gets boring for me......
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Old 03-25-2009, 01:52 PM   #1486
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6' 1" Target range 170 - 175.

Highest was 210lb (2002)

1/7 - 180.0
1/14 - 178.5
1/21 - 177.5
1/28 - 177.5
2/4 177
2/11 177
2/18 -177
2/25 178.5
3/4 177.5
3/11 176
3/18 178
3/25 177.5

Weight range since 1/14 is 2.5lb. I guess you call that a plateau. Got long vacation coming up in a few weeks. 3 weeks in England + a few days in Texas so that is going to be a big challenge.
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Old 03-25-2009, 02:34 PM   #1487
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I thought I would look skinny at 210 at one point. Each time I hit a new low I realize I was entirely too generous how how big of a guy I am. At 177 I'll be skinny minny but everytime I try to add lots of muscle while losing fat I just end up gaining fat. The science of calorie balance is too hard for me. Once I get to that low I hope to try and add some more muscle.
You're 6'2"? Then 177 isn't skinny. That would be a good weight for me at 6'6". That would give you a BMI of 22.8 which is okay but on the high end. At 210 you'd be at 27.0 wich is overweight. My brother is 6'5" and when he got up to 210 he started working really hard to lose 15lbs because 210, at 6'5", is the start of being overweight. He went down to 195 and is now back to 200 at 23.8 BMI. He knows he needs to get exercising again now that winter is nearly over and it's tolerable to be outside. At 6'2" you should be planning to get down to under 190. Good Luck!

Edit: This is assuming you have an average amount of muscle. I would reccomend getting a scale that measures body fat % as well as weight because BF % is a better gauge than BMI. BF should be under 25%.
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You're 6'2"? Then 177 isn't skinny. That would be a good weight for me at 6'6". That would give you a BMI of 22.8 which is okay but on the high end. At 210 you'd be at 27.0 wich is overweight. My brother is 6'5" and when he got up to 210 he started working really hard to lose 15lbs because 210, at 6'5", is the start of being overweight. He went down to 195 and is now back to 200 at 23.8 BMI. He knows he needs to get exercising again now that winter is nearly over and it's tolerable to be outside. At 6'2" you should be planning to get down to under 190. Good Luck!

Edit: This is assuming you have an average amount of muscle. I would reccomend getting a scale that measures body fat % as well as weight because BF % is a better gauge than BMI. BF should be under 25%.
I agree BF is important, but based on your opinion, probably 80% of folks in the US are overweight......
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I agree BF is important, but based on your opinion, probably 80% of folks in the US are overweight......
I would say that unfortunetly your probably not far off by that. It's probably upwards of 70% of the US population that is in deed overweight. Just because the majority are overweight doesn't mean that it's okay from a health standpoint to be the weight they are. It just means it's become more socially exceptable to be overweight and that's not a good thing.
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I agree BF is important, but based on your opinion, probably 80% of folks in the US are overweight......
Pretty close

According to the American Heart Association, using BMI as a measure then, "For non-Hispanic whites, 74.4 percent of men and 57.5 percent of women are overweight and obese; "
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I had my body fat % analyzed 3-4 years ago and that's how I got to 177 lbs being 10% body fat. When I was in HS I weighed 165 and was extremely skinny (28 inch waist) but I've definitely packed on muscle since then (for example, I couldn't do a single pull up back then even at that light weight compared to now doing several). I have what I believe to be a classic medium build, not huge but not a beanpole, either. My brother's BMI measures him as obese but he's got a six pack and very low body fat %. His back is a wide "V" and he's very muscular. I know that's not me!
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You're 6'2"? Then 177 isn't skinny. That would be a good weight for me at 6'6". That would give you a BMI of 22.8 which is okay but on the high end. At 210 you'd be at 27.0 wich is overweight. My brother is 6'5" and when he got up to 210 he started working really hard to lose 15lbs because 210, at 6'5", is the start of being overweight. He went down to 195 and is now back to 200 at 23.8 BMI. He knows he needs to get exercising again now that winter is nearly over and it's tolerable to be outside. At 6'2" you should be planning to get down to under 190. Good Luck!

Edit: This is assuming you have an average amount of muscle. I would reccomend getting a scale that measures body fat % as well as weight because BF % is a better gauge than BMI. BF should be under 25%.
Should have quoted you. I'm 190 lbs right now, so my perspective that 177 probably won't give me a six pack is from that vantage point. But the "house" is there and muscle definition is visible at this point.
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6'2".......same as you. I was 170 or so when I graduated HS. I was 188 when I graduated college. I suppose I could get back down in that range if I went hard at training......

I can't do P90X because I have a partially torn rotator cuff, so the weights are out. I am going to start cycling again. My ankle still doesn't feel good enough to run on. Walking is ok but gets boring for me......
It's a tough one to do with injuries, but if you get bored a lot of the P90X videos are doable without weights. Can you do push ups and pull ups? Most of the rest can be done without weights. I'd wait until the ankle was 100% before doing this program though, it's high impact at times.

I'll post some pics from Hawaii in about a month and you all can judge for yourselves if it's working and where I am. DW always just says, "fine" when I ask.
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I had my body fat % analyzed 3-4 years ago and that's how I got to 177 lbs being 10% body fat. When I was in HS I weighed 165 and was extremely skinny (28 inch waist) but I've definitely packed on muscle since then (for example, I couldn't do a single pull up back then even at that light weight compared to now doing several). I have what I believe to be a classic medium build, not huge but not a beanpole, either. My brother's BMI measures him as obese but he's got a six pack and very low body fat %. His back is a wide "V" and he's very muscular. I know that's not me!
If you would be at 10% BF at 177lbs at 6'2" then you have an above average amount on muscle and BMI wouldn't be a good gauge for you. BF% is more important than weight or BMI. If your BF% is 10%-20% then it doesn't matter if your 150lbs or 220lbs your at a good weight for your build.
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UPDATE: So this conversation got me curious and I looked up the military tape measure method of determining body fat and I'm still about 20% body fat right now! So that means I have to lose another 5 inches or more from my waist (according to their chart) before I get to 10%! Wow, that's a wake up call. And I thought I was doing good!
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UPDATE: So this conversation got me curious and I looked up the military tape measure method of determining body fat and I'm still about 20% body fat right now! So that means I have to lose another 5 inches or more from my waist (according to their chart) before I get to 10%! Wow, that's a wake up call. And I thought I was doing good!
20% BF is fine. 10% is, quite frankly, unacheivable for many people. If your under 25% for a male and under 30% for a female then you're doing fine. If your under 40 years old then i'd probably shoot for 5% lower.

Just measuring your waist isn't a very reliable method of measuring body fat % IMHO. I'd invest the $100 in a scale that measures BF. I bought one 10 years ago and use it regulary.
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20% BF is fine. 10% is, quite frankly, unacheivable for many people. If your under 25% for a male and under 30% for a female then you're doing fine. If your under 40 years old then i'd probably shoot for 5% lower.

Just measuring your waist isn't a very reliable method of measuring body fat % IMHO. I'd invest the $100 in a scale that measures BF. I bought one 10 years ago and use it regulary.
I really need to get one of those scales, but the one we have had for the last 22 years works great and we love it - so the tight wad in me can't stomach replacing something that works just fine except it is missing the BF% option. Oh my, the stress of spending money May be I'll put one on my Christmas/birthday list for the kids to consider.
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Ok, ok, I am finally going to admit it: 130#. Gained another pound.
Still 130#, but happy to have not gained more!
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