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Old 09-20-2010, 05:17 PM   #21
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I have found that I do best in the diet department if I do not feel deprived or think of certain foods as "forbidden". Fortunately my preferences are for fresh fruits and vegetables, salads (mix my own dressing which is olive oil, sherry vinegar and salt and pepper), lean meats and fish, whole grains, and nuts. I never eat white potatoes or white bread or white rice or non-whole wheat pasta, except in a restaurant or when I am a guest in someone's home. I avoid refined sugars as much as possible and do not buy any products whose ingredient list sounds like a chemistry experiment. My dietary Achilles heel is cheese (usually buy cheeses made with part-skim milk but not always) and wine (which I save for week-ends only and never more than two glasses in a day). I try to quit eating when I feel full, eat slowly and think about quality, not quantity. So far so good as am in the "normal" ranges on the charts for my height and weight.
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As someone else mentioned eating carbs can cause a craving for more carbs.

Over Labor Day Weekend (while my guest was here) I gained about 4#, probably because of sandwiches, potato chips, and the salt in prepared food.

I sent the bread, potato chips and beer home with him.

Have now dropped the 4#.
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If this is the same "study" they were discussing on my paleo forum, comments included:

Diet amounts were self reported and inexact, this was not a controlled study.

It seems the average "low carb" intake in the "low carb" study was 165 grams/day. While that is "lower carb" than the american diet full of twinkies, chips and mountain dew, it is pretty far removed from the small amount usually recommended by the low carb gurus. Therefore the first paragraph in the article saying that this made it look like Atkins was bad for you is a ridiculous interpretation, because no one was reporting Atkins levels of low carbs. Atkins maintenance levels are more like 50-90grams/day.


I also wanted to mention that some people are saying the red meat is what can be bad for you... the paleo diet thoughts on that would be that you should eat red meat that is grass fed and finished, rather than raised on grain feed, this makes its fat the healthier kind (balanced omega6 and omega3 fatty acids creates less inflammation in the body). This also makes it more expensive, so that can be tough for some of us frugalistas.
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I've been doing low carb for the last 12 years. I admit to falling off the wagon several times for a period of 1 to 4 weeks (Holidays, vacations, etc.) Every time I do, the results are the same: pants start to get tight, indigestion starts to flare up, feeling lethargic as my blood sugar does "the wave".

If I stay with adequate (not excessive) amounts of meat protein, non-starchy vegetables and modest servings of fruit, the above problems gradually go away. DW sees the same results with her eating habits. I'm glad we have each other for mutual support. It would be a lot harder to stay on track if she brought home ice cream, cookies, pastries and other diet killers that tempt me to misbehave.
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Every time I do, the results are the same: pants start to get tight, indigestion starts to flare up, feeling lethargic as my blood sugar does "the wave".

It would be a lot harder to stay on track if she brought home ice cream, cookies, pastries and other diet killers that tempt me to misbehave.
Over the last year with my new eating pattern, I no longer have any GERD and stopped with the Prilosec and Tums completely.

I also have found that since I'm now living alone, that those sneaky cookies and cakes no longer find their way into my cupboards and that's a big plus.
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That is what I said I did best on a "modified" palo diet. I'm okay with eating beans and tubers. Beans are really high in magnesium and a recent studies have indicated they are good for your waistline and your heart.
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I wish I could do low-carb, but I guess you can say I am on a less-carb diet. I don't do well with tons of carbs (more craving like Khan said), but I cannot do really low carb... I like some starch in my diet along with small amout of fruit.

It's hard to say what makes you live longer.... Okinawans eat white rice but some say their water that has coral calcium in it makes them live for so long. Bulgarians eat potatoes/pastries, but they drink a lot of fermented drinks (beneficial bacteria) and that is a secret to their longevity, etc, etc.

I just feel better with less carbs. I like fats. Bacon and all. I eat a lot of protein and I wonder about it, but I just feel good eating the way I've been eating - a lot of protein with fats (red meat, chicken, fish, pork, eggs - no hormone, no antibiotics injected or farmed or added chemicals), less starchy carbs, tons of veggies and small amount of fruit.

Having said all that, sometimes, I buy an instant ramen and eat a half of it with a poached egg!!!!
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Most US supermarkets are full of carbs and processed meats..........
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the trick to weight loss is energy out > energy in. not just eating fewer carbs. our "bird food" diet has helped us feel tremendously better. minimal meat (1 or 2 times a month). lots of exercise.
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Don't panic!

For a list of flaws in this study, go here:
Brand-Spankin’ New Study: Are Low-Carb Meat Eaters in Trouble?
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For a list of flaws in this study, go here:
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The Fung study is seriously flawed. Read this review of it by Dr. Johnny Bowden, and also see the links he includes to other critiques of the study methods and conclusions:

http://jonnybowdenblog.com/
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I prefer to think of it and act on it as a "controlled carbs" diet that regularly includes at least 1 serving of fruit/day + veggies, beans and salads and uses low GI whole grains 1-2x/dy in preference to the processed & white stuff.

That said: I do need my bagel/muffin and pizza at least weekly.
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