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04-23-2017, 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Amethyst
Dementia seems to be the No. 1 fear these days, so all the scare-mongers are linking everything to it, while the snake-oil (coconut oil) mongers are all claiming their particular nostrum will cure or prevent Alzheimer's.
I remember when everything was said to either cause, or prevent, cancer. Nobody used to mention dementia.
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now that we're living longer and taking statins and BP meds, the next worry is dementia, especially if we get into our 90s.
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04-23-2017, 05:13 PM
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I stopped my addiction to Diet Pepsi a little over a year ago and have avoided sugary drinks for years. My cardiologist is happy with my weight loss and blood work. As far as dementia...time will tell.
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04-23-2017, 05:24 PM
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I'm thinking the diet soda executives had a stroke when they saw this story in the press.
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04-23-2017, 05:30 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by timo2
I'm thinking the diet soda executives had a stroke when they saw this story in the press.
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I doubt that. Would any cigarette manufacturers still be alive with all the bad press cigarettes have had for the past 60 or so years? People will still drink their diet sodas.
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04-23-2017, 05:57 PM
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As Chuckanut and others have said, just eat mostly real, whole foods and you will probably be fine. I try to stay away from most highly processed foods (with long lists of ingredients on the side), as I don't think it's a great idea to consume things that the human body was never designed to ingest and process. Shop the perimeter of the grocery store, and stay away from all the processed junk in the interior aisles, is a pretty good rule to follow. Better yet, grow your own garden, and buy your meat and eggs from local farmers if you can.
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04-23-2017, 06:18 PM
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Saw a doctor talk about the study on one of the morning shows. She made a point of saying the relationship was very small and the key was there was no causation proved.
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04-23-2017, 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Chuckanut
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What is reasonable? I figure it's something that my grandmother could have done to the food in her kitchen 50 to 100 years ago. I don't have to do it myself, it's just that she could have done it. For example, churning milk into butter passes my reasonable test. Adding another hydrogen atom to seed oils to create trans-fats does not. That's me. Your definition of reasonable may differ.
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My grandfathers died in late fifties and early sixties. Not sure I want to eat what my grandmothers prepared on a daily basis, but as I remember, it sure tasted good! (Both grandmothers died at 73.)
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04-24-2017, 08:48 AM
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My mom had TIA's and dementia and never drank a diet soda in her life.
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04-24-2017, 12:22 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bir48die
My mom had TIA's and dementia and never drank a diet soda in her life.
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Well that settles it!
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04-24-2017, 12:44 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by haha
Well that settles it!
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I should say so!
Any advice for those of us who can't decide between placebo and anecdote?
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04-24-2017, 12:52 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rustic23
Saw a doctor talk about the study on one of the morning shows. She made a point of saying the relationship was very small and the key was there was no causation proved.
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thanks - was curious about that - won't see my md for another 6 months annual check up
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04-24-2017, 02:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ERD50
Many important advances came from some one simply noticing something (penicillin, vulcanization of rubber, etc). We don't call that "bad science", we call it observation. Then the observation gets followed up with more studies and experiments. Plenty of room for bad science in all that, but I would not call this observation bad science, unless they weighted it beyond what you can draw from all the limitations of the data set. I don't see where they are doing that.
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I think you're right. I recall reading that Viagra was originally developed as a blood pressure medicine. Then during the trials to determine its effectiveness a number of the guys participating started to notice "something". And the rest, they say, is history (as well as a gold mine for Pfizer).
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04-24-2017, 02:53 PM
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Minoxidil was originally a high BP med that had unusual side effects.
The Unusual History of Minoxidil as a Hair Loss Treatment
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04-24-2017, 04:00 PM
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I'm also (mostly) a JERF...just eat real food. I estimate that 80-85%% of my diet is actual food completely unprocessed. I don't worry about the other 15%-20% very much as even though some of it is processed, it's not heavily processed.
I've also never been a soda pop drinker...the only thing I drink is water, with the exception of a cup or 2 of coffee in the morning, the occasional beer, and once or twice a month I'll have a couple shots of rum with the now deadly diet soda.
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04-24-2017, 04:02 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Music Lover
.the only thing I drink is water, with the exception of a cup or 2 of coffee in the morning, the occasional beer, and once or twice a month I'll have a couple shots of rum with the now deadly diet soda.
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Make that 3 coffees, and eliminate the rum/soda, and that's us too.
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04-24-2017, 04:29 PM
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Is water natural? Fluoride, chlorine, all those other chemicals that find their way into good old H2O. We're doomed!
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04-24-2017, 04:40 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dash man
Is water natural? Fluoride, chlorine, all those other chemicals that find their way into good old H2O. We're doomed!
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My water is natural...I have a well and filter it through reverse osmosis.
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04-24-2017, 04:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Music Lover
My water is natural...I have a well and filter it through reverse osmosis.
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We're putting a reverse osmosis system in our Florida condo. We may put one in our PA house too. Scotch and red wine help quench my thirst too.
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04-24-2017, 05:57 PM
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Full time employment: Posting here.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 6miths
Doomed I tell you, we're all doomed!!
On the brighter side, based on my Diet Coke intake, I won't have the faculties to be bothered when the end finally comes.
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Ditto! And yet somehow I managed to type this!
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04-24-2017, 06:31 PM
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I gave up DP because it gives me heartburn. But I broke down and had a small glass on my flight today.
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