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Prostate Cancer and index finger length
Old 12-01-2010, 05:56 PM   #1
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Prostate Cancer and index finger length

Probably not a replacement for other types of testing, but it is easy to check and only needs to be done once.

Prostate Cancer Risk Is Lower in Men With Long Index Fingers, Study Finds - Bloomberg
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Men with long index fingers are at lower risk of prostate cancer, a study found. Scientists in the U.K. who compared the hands of 1,500 prostate cancer patients and 3,000 healthy men found that those whose index was longer than their ring finger were 33 percent less likely to develop the potentially fatal disease.
“Relative finger length could be used as a simple test for prostate cancer risk,” said Ros Eeles, one of the study’s lead authors and a researcher who investigates links between genetic makeup and tumors at London’s Institute of Cancer Research, in a statement. The study was published in the British Journal of Cancer today.
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Whew! ......I was worried that this post might have something to do with "self examinations"!
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No wonder all those grampas always want their fingers pulled.
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Whew! ......I was worried that this post might have something to do with "self examinations"!
"You'll only do it once"!

Again with the finger length or ratio having some sexual indications. Wonder if prostate cancer is reduced in either men with reduced testosterone or of a gay predeliction? (hmm - or testosterone levels between the catchers and the pitchers in male gay couples)

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Turns out that you can tell men from women by the index-to-ring finger test (women have index > ring and men have the opposite) fairly reliably. For the record, there are many more enjoyable ways of making the distinction but just in case you're in a pinch (so to speak) this serves well.

Once upon a time it was thought that ear lobe creases were a coronary risk (not born out). These type of anthropometric theories rarely survive more serious prospective scrutiny.

In my case, the right 2nd and 4th fingers are equal, and on the left, the 4th (ring) finger is longer. I will work on pulling my right 4th finger as often as I can.
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Whew! ......I was worried that this post might have something to do with "self examinations"!
I was even more worried that it'd have something to do with choosing a doctor for a prostate exam.

As Rich_in_Tampa would say, "Two thumbs up!"
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I was even more worried that it'd have something to do with choosing a doctor for a prostate exam.

As Rich_in_Tampa would say, "Two thumbs up!"
Nords, we're doing this online these days. Got a USB port?
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Got a USB port?
Of course, everybody's got one.

You docs always come up with fancy names for body parts, don't you.
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... there are many more enjoyable ways of making the distinction...
This reminded me of a couple of scenes in "Crocodile Dundee", but I was not able to find the clip on youtube.
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I always thought the relation between finger lengths extended to other body parts. No?
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Didn’t take long for this thread to get off track. Not one serious response.

No, no finger pulling, self examinations, pitchers and catchers, USB ports (I did like that one) or hints about other body parts. Rich, I already can tell the difference between men and women, but I do appreciate the advice and will keep it in mind during my next trip to Brazil or anytime I find myself in a pinch.

So, are we to conclude that gay men suffer lower rates of prostate cancer, or men with lower risk are in denial about their sexuality? Hmmm - the lack of responses from the men on this forum about their index-to-ring finger ratio makes me wonder.
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Turns out that you can tell men from women by the index-to-ring finger test (women have index > ring and men have the opposite) fairly reliably. For the record, there are many more enjoyable ways of making the distinction but just in case you're in a pinch (so to speak) this serves well.
That could come in handy if I'm ever in Bangkok, thx
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Turns out that you can tell men from women by the index-to-ring finger test (women have index > ring and men have the opposite) fairly reliably. For the record, there are many more enjoyable ways of making the distinction but just in case you're in a pinch (so to speak) this serves well.
Reminds me of the excellent movie, The Crying Game (it is not a comedy!)

A friend from college was visiting us at DW's parent's house one time and DW's little sister (10 yr old I think) says to him "Do you know how to tell I'm a girl?". Our friend was horrified and stammered, but she rescued him by saying, "look, ear rings".

My index finger is fractionally shorter, but I can stretch it so that it appears equal length. Guess that doesn't get me out of the annual DRE.
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My index finger is fractionally shorter, but I can stretch it so that it appears equal length. Guess that doesn't get me out of the annual DRE.
My index appears shorter than my ring finger, but....

looking at the wiki site on this, it says you measure from the crease where the finger meets the hand. By that measure my index finger is only slightly shorter.

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My index appears shorter than my ring finger, but....

looking at the wiki site on this, it says you measure from the crease where the finger meets the hand. By that measure my index finger is only slightly shorter.

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That is more scientific, and it puts my index about 1mm longer than my ring finger.

I still don't think I'll skip the annual probing. As the old joke goes, it is worth asking the Doc for a note after the exam that I can show DW that, in fact, my head is not up my a$$ after all.
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Turns out that you can tell men from women by the index-to-ring finger test (women have index > ring and men have the opposite) fairly reliably. For the record, there are many more enjoyable ways of making the distinction but just in case you're in a pinch (so to speak) this serves well.
Well by that definition all men are susceptible to prostate cancer via the index to ring finger test.

who would have thought
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So women aren't subject to prostate cancer? That's hardly fair - here's a poor chap that died from uterine cancer..... probably his finger length ratio didn't apply.

Queens man Vincent Liew dies of uterine cancer after kidney transplant from NYU Medical Center
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My index finger is fractionally shorter, but I can stretch it so that it appears equal length. Guess that doesn't get me out of the annual DRE.
Guess there could be more than one reason to have a little kid pull your finger, huh?
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I think I'll have my ring fingers cut off. It would cut the risk for two potential problems.
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