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Old 07-04-2009, 07:01 PM   #41
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Took the test at w*rk back in 1989 or so, ESTJ all the way.
Dominant lefthanded, but pretty ambidextrous due to necessity of using right hand primarily while left hand was recovering from carpal tunnel surgery. I even taught myself to write with my right hand.
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Old 07-04-2009, 10:53 PM   #42
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Except I'm sometimes borderline ESTJ, depending on my mood at the time.
I always came out ESTJ whenever we took the full MBTI at work, but recently I took an online junior version and came out ISTJ. Wondered if I was changing in retirement, but maybe it was my mood. Not sure I want to take the full MBTI again just to find out.
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Never heard of these personality types until I saw them mentioned in this forum. Apparently, many public workers take these tests at work. Why? Is it a requirement? What they gonna do to you if you are a wrong type? What are they looking for?
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Never heard of these personality types until I saw them mentioned in this forum. Apparently, many public workers take these tests at work. Why? Is it a requirement? What they gonna do to you if you are a wrong type? What are they looking for?
These are perceptive questions. I've taken it 3 times at work; the first time, in a 2-day session. The reason given was "to help everyone to understand that we are all different, and to provide us with strategies for getting along and working together effectively." Far more useful in my working life, was a Dale Carnegie course I purchased on audio tapes about 20 years ago.

So much hype surrounded the first time I took MBTI, that I was chagrined to find that the results were ignored once the class was over. The exception was that some people like to use the results to justify the way they or others behave, e.g. "I'm an E, of course I like to dominate conversations," "He's an I, that's why he won't look you in the eye when talking to you," or "Messy desk - must be a P, huh?"

Another occasion for the test, plus a full day's group-grope, was that the person in charge had received complaints that people in his section weren't getting along. Naturally, he assumed that something must be wrong with us, although he himself was causing the contention, by giving 2 highly competitive people the same project to lead, and always talking to them separately about the assignment.

According to what I have read, the test was invented by two people with no psychological training, but with terrific marketing skills. The test has many staunch adherents. When I hear someone defend MBTI, it is often as if they have invested something of themselves into their 4-letter ID. Based on my observation, people who always get the same results tend to seem happier about it than those who get different results each time.
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Never heard of these personality types until I saw them mentioned in this forum. Apparently, many public workers take these tests at work. Why? Is it a requirement? What they gonna do to you if you are a wrong type? What are they looking for?
I've never formally taken it, just the online versions, and saw one in a book. For me, it just helps to understand why some people do the (apparently) strange things that they do.

As in, why would someone be excited about a 30% off sale, then pay six or twelve months of credit card interest on the charges, thereby negating any "savings" from buying on sale? Behavior like that is absolutely incomprehensible to me, but I see one SIL do that all the time. Or why are some people, even those with good educations, utterly incapable of saving money?

Like the couple we know who are $700k in debt. She's a recently retired math teacher, which means (where she worked) she must have at least a MS in mathematics. Yet at one point in the past year, unable to get credit anywhere else, she obtained a car title loan to finance going on a trip. I just don't get it.

In contrast, DW and I routinely save money for what we want, and I haven't paid a dime in credit card interest charges since my ex moved out, and the only time DW paid cc interest charges was when she was in her 20's, and that was for a transmission repair on her car, which she paid off in three months.
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I've never formally taken it, just the online versions, and saw one in a book. For me, it just helps to understand why some people do the (apparently) strange things that they do.

As in, why would someone be excited about a 30% off sale, then pay six or twelve months of credit card interest on the charges, thereby negating any "savings" from buying on sale? Behavior like that is absolutely incomprehensible to me, but I see one SIL do that all the time. Or why are some people, even those with good educations, utterly incapable of saving money?

In contrast, DW and I routinely save money for what we want, and I haven't paid a dime in credit card interest charges since my ex moved out, and the only time DW paid cc interest charges was when she was in her 20's, and that was for a transmission repair on her car, which she paid off in three months.
AFAIK, MBTI wasn't designed to tell ants from grasshoppers.
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My agency made managers take 40+ hours of "management" training each year. I must have taken the MBTI every other year as part of one class or another. The idea was to better understand your personality and how it affected your management style.

I'm not sure how accurate the MBTI is, or how useful it is. I think I already knew I had a personality that liked to be "in-charge" and "directing" before I learned I was an ESTJ. Apparently the folks who worked for me knew I could be characterized as "The Enforcer / Supervisor / Guardian" when they took to calling me "El Chicote" - Spanish for "The Whip".
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AFAIK, MBTI wasn't designed to tell ants from grasshoppers.
Probably not, but it may give insight to the way people spend their money. I have spent some money, but for certain things for my own pleasure but not to impress, ie. not conspicuous consumption. On the other hand, I have several female relatives who like to spend as much money as a new car on jewelry. I am glad my wife is not one. I am actually not a very perceptive person. I am not sure what type my wife is. I will try to get her to take a simple test, and compare her result to my guess to see if I understand my wife of 29 years.

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My agency made managers take 40+ hours of "management" training each year. I must have taken the MBTI every other year as part of one class or another. The idea was to better understand your personality and how it affected your management style.

I'm not sure how accurate the MBTI is, or how useful it is. I think I already knew I had a personality that liked to be "in-charge" and "directing" before I learned I was an ESTJ. Apparently the folks who worked for me knew I could be characterized as "The Enforcer / Supervisor / Guardian" when they took to calling me "El Chicote" - Spanish for "The Whip".
Then it works in your case. Yeah, I looked up ESTJ type and it appeared to fit you, from what little I read from you in this forum. Works in my case too.
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